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Post by voodoo on Aug 26, 2016 7:48:37 GMT -5
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Post by Jack Shrapnel on Aug 26, 2016 8:42:53 GMT -5
whelp... that's not allowed ever... geez forgeworld a 10 HP landraider that holds 40 models (and up to two dreads) has a four shot blast melta, a skyfire interceptor weapon that's heavy 5, flamers and sponson lascannons that can overwatch, manipulates reserves can be upgraded to a superheavy command tank and has two goddam void shields on top of this? ![???](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/huh.png) ? what the actual fuck were you thinking? ![???](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/huh.png) ?
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Post by voodoo on Aug 26, 2016 10:34:15 GMT -5
Riptide wing? Stormsurge?
I dunno, I’m reaching here. I do think it’s main place would be in apoc, but it would also be funny to see it show up on a 2k table just because it’s so GD massive. Hell, you could make a costume for a Chihuahua and sub it in for the mastodon.
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Post by raceygaming on Aug 26, 2016 12:05:26 GMT -5
Riptide wing? Stormsurge? I dunno, I’m reaching here. I do think it’s main place would be in apoc, but it would also be funny to see it show up on a 2k table just because it’s so GD massive. Hell, you could make a costume for a Chihuahua and sub it in for the mastodon. I could see the comparison to the Supremacy Suit for tau but riptide wing and stormsurge would get crushed by this thing. Looks super cool tho! Its like a driving Tau Manta!
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Post by voodoo on Aug 26, 2016 12:30:22 GMT -5
I’m wondering how it could get crushed, it’s melta has a 12” range. Yes it’s a blast; but 12” range… Meaning it has a pair of Lascannons (non twin-linked) with which to reach out and touch ground units.
Riptide wing uses their “fire twice” and re-roll nova charge to drop 6x Ordnance blasts on it, stripping the void shields and maybe doing a hull or two. Markerlights mark the behemoth, Stormsurge drops 3x D missiles on it, no more Mastodon. Then your opponent is 700 points down and has 40 guys piling out of a choke point to get picked off in subsequent turns.
It’s not even as good at thunderblitzing as the Typhon. It can still roll a 1 and do absolutely nothing. Against any other army, it’d be one hell of a tough nut to crack but against Tau it’s just another AV14 point sink that’ll get dummied by D-missiles.
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Post by LizardTau on Aug 26, 2016 12:52:31 GMT -5
That's a lot of points worth of models to take out a 700 point model. But yes it could die fast to that.
The thing is worth almost 3 landraiders.
For 10 hull points. Immune to melta and 2 void shields. Av 14.
But 2 Death company dreads and 20 death company coming out of it would be pretty awesome.
Sent from my SGH-I337M using proboards
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Post by Jack Shrapnel on Aug 26, 2016 13:21:48 GMT -5
Not to be contrary, but even that extremely tooled up tau build would have a not great chance of taking this out. 4 D missiles, with our revised chart have a difficult time reliably taking out 10 HP. Roll a single 1 and it ain't happening. Even when they all hit you still have to roll above average and it has to have zero saves and it's void shields stripped first. Pretty much everything has to go exactly right for the tau, and they're needing to devote all of their one shot weaponry / tricks to do it, so if it doesn't work, the tank is then effectively immune to them.
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Post by raceygaming on Aug 26, 2016 18:21:09 GMT -5
Ya 3 riptides + a Storm Surge is about 1000 pts plus goodies. So 1000 pts killing 700p ts isn't too crazy. The big issue would be like Knights both Imperial and Wraith orStomppa with those big Melee D weapons 4-5 attacks, a good round and the thing is gone.
Where this monster would shine is vs armies that use melta to get their tank busting. If all you have is S8 this thing is a nightmare. Armoured Ceramite + VA 14 is a tough nut to crack without D weapons, however yes D is being more accessible to most armies.
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Post by mraven on Aug 27, 2016 11:36:28 GMT -5
I guess its for when you really, really, really need those troops to make it into assault...
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Post by Jack Shrapnel on Aug 27, 2016 16:20:29 GMT -5
it'll mean the nastiest death star you can dream up will hit combat just about guarenteed...
...or I guess two of them since it's a superheavy.... lol
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