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Post by danydaigle24 on Mar 23, 2011 13:13:59 GMT -5
I got lots of Marines Im not using so Ill convert them to Crimson Fist let me know what you guys think... Pedro and Lib in LR with 10 Sternguard...
Pedro 175
Librairian/Null Zone/Gate 100
Sternguard 225
8 Combi Melta 40
1 Melta 5
1 HV Flamer 10
PF 25
Total 305
5 Marine 90
PF/CombiFlamer 35
RazorbackTLLAs 75
Total 200
10 Marine 170
ML/M 5
Rhino 35
PFCombiM 35
Total 245
2 Land Speeder Thypoon 180
2 Land Speeder MM/HF 140
Land Raider 250
5 Sternguard 125
1 Melta 5
1 Heavy Flamer 10
PF 25
Razorback TLLAS 75
3 Combi Melta 15
Total 255
Total 1850
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Post by guis on Mar 23, 2011 16:52:06 GMT -5
In my opinion, sternguard work best in a drop pod. For example, 5 combi plasma, 5 combi melta that combat squad when you come in, blow up their LR with the meltas then unload on what was inside with the plasmas.
Your list has a lot of firepower, but also seems rather fragile. I think you would have lots of trouble against not necessarily horde lists, but those who spam lots of basic units, like longfang and grey hunter in rhino spam type lists or blood angels with a lot of assault marines.
If nothing else, I would recommend at least swapping out a couple combi meltas for combi plasmas, because 9 meltas on a tank is overkill and you're going to want some plasma over melta against non tanks.
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Post by danydaigle24 on Mar 23, 2011 17:51:24 GMT -5
I was thinking about plasma but if I come out of land raider can fire meltas and charge but with plasma I cant... so thats why I want with melta... Also thats my first list I was also tempt by pods but i will try this one fisrt then ill try pods... Thanks for good advice Micheal
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Post by trevor on Mar 23, 2011 18:03:02 GMT -5
Pedro 175 chaplian casias ...125 10 Sternguard 250 5 Combi Melta 25 2 LC 30 Razorback 40 Total 345 5 Sternguard 125 5 Combi plasmas 25 Razorback 40 Total 190 7 assault terminators with TH/SS 280 5 scouts 75 5 scouts 75 2 Land Speeder Thypoon 180 2 Land Speeder MM/HF 140 Land Raider crusader with multi melta 260 added some kilyness to the list  . one thing i would change would be the TLL on the razor backs they are kinda magnets to get shot plus heavy bolters are way cheaper |
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Post by danydaigle24 on Mar 23, 2011 18:33:19 GMT -5
Lol Trevor and its 7 Assault Terminators...good list tough...
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Post by calitom on Mar 23, 2011 19:01:09 GMT -5
I like the list a lot, my only problem with it is the lack of a dedicated close combat unit. Though Pedro with a Librarian and 10 Sternguard could be rather potent seeing the kind of shooting they can put out prior to the assault. (And let's not forget Pedro's aura gives them 4 attacks each on the charge. Which for a shooting unit isn't half bad.  ) Though I'd opt to put a Lightning claw on the SRGT with Pedro in the LR so you have a 4 attack power weapon striking on initiative (and the rerolls never hurt.) Use the spare points to upgrade the ML in the Tactical marine squad to a Las.  Alternatively you could drop the 5 man tactical squad down to a sniper scout squad with ML and cloaks, and drop the 2 MM/HF Land speeders to fit in a 5 man Terminator assault squad and a rhino for the 10 man Sternguard (leaving them as is). This would give you that dedicated CC unit to put Pedro and the Librarian with in the LR and while it'd lose you a TLLAS (from the razorback) That TH/SS termi squad with 20 Thunderhammer attacks on the charge, 5 Force weapon attacks and 4 Power fist attacks coming in would be extremely painful for someone to deal with. At least that's my vote. Lots of solid Crimson fist shooting. |
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. one thing i would change would be the TLL on the razor backs they are kinda magnets to get shot plus heavy bolters are way cheaper
) Though I'd opt to put a Lightning claw on the SRGT with Pedro in the LR so you have a 4 attack power weapon striking on initiative (and the rerolls never hurt.) Use the spare points to upgrade the ML in the Tactical marine squad to a Las. 