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Post by Jack Shrapnel on Apr 11, 2011 10:51:04 GMT -5
Well it's about time they boosted magic in 8th ed....  from GW site: Storm of Magic - when the eight winds howl... The Winds of Magic are tumultuous. Drawn by Morrslieb, they are prone to rise from a strong gale into a howling tempest. And when they do no kingdom or realm is safe. Monsters awaken from their slumber and are summoned from their lairs at the bidding of sorcerous masters. Armies assemble, ready to defend their borders or seize the opportunity to gain limitless power. It is in these desperate times tenuous pacts between wizards and creatures of darkness are sealed to create alliances never thought possible. A time of doom and great deeds is at hand. Will you rise to meet the storm? Announcing the impending arrival of Storm of Magic, the latest and largest Expansion for Warhammer, the Game of Fantasy Battles. Launched in July 2011, Storm of Magic describes what happens when great eldritch maelstroms roil across the lands. Magic becomes far more powerful and there is a whole range of Cataclysm spells to cast, unleashing untold devastation on the enemy. Arcane Fulcrums burst from the ground, not only acting as loci for the swirling energies that pervade a battle fought amidst the Storm of Magic, but changing the way a Warhammer tabletop looks and interacts with your armies. With such things so crucial to your Storm of Magic games a new range of Warhammer scenery and Wizards will soon be released in time for you to wage cataclysmic battles. Then there are the monsters. When the Winds of Magic blow with such strength, the fell creatures of the world gravitate towards the tempest, slithering from deep tunnels or emerging from mountain lairs. With the new Expansion allowing you to use so many different creatures there are a whole host of new monstrous plastic kits on their way. Citadel's queen of creatures, Trish Carden, has spent the last few years in her own lair preparing for the new monsters to be unleashed upon the world and you can see two brief glimpses of what is to come below: |
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Post by stonecutter on Apr 11, 2011 11:07:09 GMT -5
OMFG, just what the game needed - an even more ridiculous magic phase and bigger and tougher monsters to fight  |
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Post by Jack Shrapnel on Apr 11, 2011 11:30:21 GMT -5
lol.... figures the first thing they boost in 8th with the expansion was magic and monsters eh?
so much for the rumors of it being a cavalry expansion!
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Post by LizardTau on Apr 11, 2011 12:05:39 GMT -5
well they could be saying, "oh going to complain about our magic phase eh", "well look at it now"
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Post by Jack Shrapnel on Apr 11, 2011 14:05:23 GMT -5
they just want us to say "remember when 8th first came out and how balanced the magic phase was?"  |
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Post by thesanityassassin on Apr 11, 2011 14:32:44 GMT -5
*vomits uncontrollably*
Anyone want to buy my elves?
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Post by Jack Shrapnel on Apr 11, 2011 14:48:47 GMT -5
Well it looks as though this is going to be an expansion for Fantasy along the lines of apocolypse for 40k...
one of the big rumour guys at Warseer (Harry) responds to a thread about the subject with: (Harry's responses in red)
"Originally Posted by Rosstifer
I wonder if it will be more generic monsters that anyone can take as opposed to race specific monsters, like back in the day.
This is a good bet.
Originally Posted by Nocculum
Any rumination as to whom the wizards will be?
Many and varied
Originally Posted by jme
Wonder if this will be the first time we'll see the new resin models? (for the new wizards).
Also wonder if the new monsters will have riders.
I think we will see some resin.
I wonder if there will be options on the sprues?
Originally Posted by stahly
Or nothing?
Usually we see 3 to 4 plastic kits for each release, Dark Eldar had 6 but that was a big push. From the teasers we got a plastic Black Dragon, a Manticore and from the Beastmen rumor thread there might be something for them as well. Add some terrain kits and there are plenty of plastic models for a month.
I'd guess the rest are several metal/resin wizards for various races, but don't expect too much, Harry said before that this release isn't as big as that every army would get something.
I did ... But quite a few will.
It was just when Bram first mentioned this he made it sound like all armies got new kits ... and in a way he was right.
Originally Posted by Haravikk
I'm interested by the mention of new scenery though in particular, I love scenery, but I'm hoping it'll be magic buildings/towers etc. for other races, as Empire is pretty well covered at the moment. Some more normal terrain would be nice but the expansion doesn't look like it'll be geared for that.
It sounded to me like it was generic bits of warhammer goodness bursting up from the ground rather than race specific buildings for any army
Originally Posted by Paull
as far as the pics go, i think what we've got is a manticore and something else, i can't imagine it being a dragon as it looks like it has feathers / fur rather than scales.
Feathers you say... I had heard something about a Cockatrice a while back
Originally Posted by Portentous
It IS a plastic Warhammer Dragon. Can build diff varieties just like the Giant.
The other is the plastic Manticore / Chimera.
The other monstrous release will no doubt be the Beastmen Cygor/Ghorgon that Harry has confirmed has been waiting for release for ages.
Manticore/Chimera kit you say? I did hear something about a Chimera.
I don't think it was me that said anything about a Cygor/Ghorgon ... did I?
Originally Posted by Grimmeth
Does that DE_Dragon pic mean we might finally get a new Malekith sculpt?
Oh my... Dusting of my Druchii just in case though!
I did hear something about Malekith.
But that may be unrelated.
I have to say the next Dark Elf book is going to look pretty tasty with all these monster kits waiting in the wings.
I think this is great fun.
Great to see Fantasy getting some serious attention with a big expansion like this.
Great to see some more big kits.
Great to see some more terrain
Eventually all armies will have something big in plastic. (Look at the last few armies) BUT this way no one has to wait. We can all get stuck in.
BRING IT ON! "
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Post by Jack Shrapnel on Jun 8, 2011 10:12:31 GMT -5
More rumours:
Confirmed
- we get a new expansion for WFB that focuses on magic and monsters
- this is not limited to WD
- this is not a specific campaign or new rules system, but a build-on to the core WFB rules
- we get new wizard models
- we get new monster models
- we get new scenery
Unconfirmed
- this is in scale Apocalypse for WFB
- according to Harry the pics may be of a Black Dragon and Manticore
- others have suggested that the first monster may be an Abyssal Terror
- they may in fact both be spell related creatures (as e.g. Transformation of Kadon)
- we get generic monsters
- we get many new wizards
- we may get resin models
- the new scenery is magical (i.e. magical structures/magical effects/something utterly new)
- there is a new rumour of a new Nagash model
UndeadGoblin also gave us the following original rumours
Information from a friend with an advance copy of the ruleset:
- Magic Re-adjusted "alot"
- 9th type of magic
-No level 5 wizards - Tomb King only thing
- releases spread out over a few months.
6/6/11 UPDATE
Some cryptic stuff here, some very open things too...
Frgt/10 wrote
no one's even bothered to mention the new vampire counts beastie yet either
in reply to if said beast was resin? nope, plastic
usable in ‘generic’ unded army? yes. well at least one part of it to my knowledge...
In addition, he wrote
evidently the part where I said 'new' beastie went over everyones heads...
He added more detail in the Vampire thread, adding - there are some vc monsters coming for SoC
something old and something new...
Hastings wrote in the Vamp thread -
there is indeed a new de sorceress
Harry wrote in reply to El Antiguo Guardián
I heard someting about armies that not anyone can imagine in SoM.
I can imagine a fair bit.
This I have heard .... and have been banging on about "some old friends" on every new army thread that appears for months now.
Not long to wait now.
All we be revealed.
Can't believe no one picked up on the chicken stuff from the first thread
El Antiguo Guardián wrote in the Vampire army thread started by
Shyvax
Well, i´m going to start with some one´s.
There are new miniatures for Necromances (not sure), and a flying monster (undead one), possibly an Abbysal TERROR (WELL, IT´S AN ABBYSAL TERROR!) But i don´t know if it have a rider.
Harry later wrote in reply to Zaonite
I have heard about the DE Lady Hastings has mentioned, the Necromancer El A G has mentioned and a couple of god specific Chaos sorcerers some Empire wizards, I think we are getting quite a few magic user types one way and another ... and a Lord or two maybe not something for everyone as was rumoured and I have not heard about Nagash or the Everqueen ... but a nice selection.
However I have not heard details for as many models as I have been told are coming ..... But I am wondering if (given the recent Fine Carsed release) a number of the wizards will be discontinued metal being Fine Carsed up rather than all new sculpts we have not seen before.
Still I am mostly excited about a big fat juicy book.I am sure it will get me modeling and painting all kinds of magical, monstery goodness.
In reply to this (specifically about wizards being finecasted), Hastings wrote
75hastings69
Yes............. AFAIK (and maybe not just wizards!)
Hastings later wrote in reply to Ender Shadowkin mentioning Fenbeasts
To help things along pretty much if it's a creature if some sort it's in the SoM book (though not necessarily getting a "new" mini)
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Post by Jack Shrapnel on Jun 14, 2011 11:21:04 GMT -5
More info:
Bram Gaunt wrote
"Oh, now that everybody posts, I might as well spill my guts.. I intended to wait another week, but ah, swell...
Storm of Magic will be a full-colour hardcover book, about half the thikness of the Core Rulebook, and at the price of, well, apoximatly one Leman Russ Battletank.
It's due for release the second saturday of July. Previews start the saturday befor.
There will be a multitude of kits and gimmicks to acompany them.
Plastic Boxed Sets are:
Chaos Lord on Manticore
Dark Elven Lord on Black Dragon
Both Kits are the same price as a similar High Elven Ridden Monster.
The saddle, Rider and (in case of the Dragon) the armour are completly optional.
There is also a Kit labeled
Chimaera
and one labeled
Cockatrice
which are the same price as a 10 man Space Marines Squad.
There are also some Clampack releases:
Chaos Supreme Sorcerer
Supreme Sorcerer of Tzeentch
Vampirecounts Necromancer
Dark Elven High Sorceress
I don't know what these are made of. Since they are clampacked I guessed Finecast, but the price of, ah, well, lets say it in GBP: It's a one-digit-point-something Price lable.
Quiet affordable if it was finecast, but since hasitings said plastic sorceres... well... do the math.
Of course there is a whole bunch of playthings and gimmics aswell, like Vortex Templates (Like the Dark Eldar Wayportal template, only bigger), Dice, Battle Magic Cards (which apearently come in a cool box of sime Lost Arc style... with skulls of course...) and Focus Points (4 different ones).
Which brings us to rules.
Storm of Magic is for any Warhammer Fantasy Battle Army. It supports you with a alternative of Deployment, Magic and Army composition rules.
Game mechanics
While you place terrain, you deploy Magil Focus points. Think of these as landmarks inhibited with strong magics, like towers, magical stairs, Columns of Fire, or what ever. Each army starts with a designated number of Focus points, it depends of the scale of the game. 1 per army per 1000 points is, what I was told, suggested in the book.
You may place 1 Wizard including a mount on top of the Focus point, and one guarding unit within a limited space - enough to place about 30 standard base-sized miniatures, I was told. The rest of your army is deployed as usual.
The game is all about dominating these points, which grant great boni to your wizard while he stands atop of them. The Magic Phase is strongly buffed with 4D6 Power dice. In addition, you determine the ascending wind of magic at the beginning of each magic phase. (It's done randomly by some sort of tool, don't ask me what it is, I don't know, but apperantly it's not a dice.) Army book Lores are associated with Army book rules, for example if the Lore of Light is the Ascendand Lore this turn, High Magic is Ascended aswell (I don't know if High Lore is really associated with Lore of Light - it's simply a example of my understanding of the mechanics).
The Ascended magic gains a +4 bonus on attempts to cast their spells. You cannot change the Ascendend in any way, though it's determined new in every magic phase.
There is also a bunch of new spells which appearently give you the possibility not only to summon Monsters loke the Cockatrice, but also whole units from other armies. I personally didn't by this one. It was a long evening with a LOT of beer.
Bram later wrote
No clue. As far as I know there are Spells only accesable via items or controlling a focus point. The Rulebook Lores remain untouched, though they might get boosted...
Hastings wrote in reply to Bram’s bumper post
Plastic MOUNTED sorceress, the foot one is finecast
A mastercrafterd post good sir, with only to my knowledge 2 exclusions....
1. Arcane fulcrum scenery piece (a ruined floor with a magical vortex - of plastic - swirling upwards which you can place your wizard on top of.
2. The "garden of morr" scenery piece, basically a new fantasy graveyard - although I'm not 100% sure that this won't be held back until the VC wave later in the year.
Bram later wrote in reply to another poster mentioning the rumour of the Graveyard
Ah, no. At least not for the initial wave... Or it's not a designated SoM release. It's not in my books anyway. There is no scenery at all, since I count the focus points as needed. while scenery is optional. There are four different Focus points, though, maybe you meant them. One's a throne, one's a gate, one's a stairway and ones a... magic-thingy-column. They come two for a space marine tac squad.
Bram wrote in reply to Poncho
It's like Apocalypse. In many ways.
In reply to Tuatha Dar
The sets are labeled Chaos Lord on Manticore, and Dark Elf Highborn on Black Dragon. I don't think there are additional riders. It might be possible that the other Sorcerers to be released are compatible with the kits, though.
Thats your lot for now, I'd expect more news to reveal itself when the june wave of tomb kings goes on sale."
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Post by Jack Shrapnel on Jun 14, 2011 11:22:58 GMT -5
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Post by pmlizardmen on Jun 14, 2011 11:35:41 GMT -5
im so glad i just bought a vamp. and chaos war army  i love new modles. |
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Post by redshirt2375 on Jun 14, 2011 11:42:02 GMT -5
Hmm more dice to collect...and a new Soceress model...and Vortex templates (which look a lot like the Webway portals for Dark Eldar). And the new DE Black Dragon looks really nice.
*sighs*
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Post by thesanityassassin on Jun 14, 2011 13:45:32 GMT -5
Stupid computer, still not allowing me to access Warseer for some reason!
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Post by Jack Shrapnel on Jun 25, 2011 8:08:30 GMT -5
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Post by stonecutter on Jun 25, 2011 14:16:48 GMT -5
So, I wonder if the 4d6 magic phase will still leave the defending side with only d6 worth of dispel dice. Now that would be really nasty!!
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i love new modles.
