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Post by raceygaming on Feb 22, 2024 10:59:16 GMT -5
Can someone tell me what the Ironman format was? Iron man was pitched as a continously battle format, any and all losses in a round carry over. So ideal it works as such Game 1 - 2500 pts you play and loss 1100 pts of stuff, some units are down to 3/10 or 2/5 or your tank is on 6/14 damage. Round 2 - you put your 1400 pts on the table and you units start at 3/10 and your tank is partly damaged. You play thr game and win but lose 1000 pts of stuff Round 3 - 400 pts to use with all damages. Etc. Round 4+ - any left The idea is you are matched into the player with the closest point value and rounds significantly speed up as people play with 1-2 models that,are left. Ideal with 4 maybe 5 rounds there is a,single model left standing, or with time constrants the player with the most points left. With how deadly 10th is I'd say most people are tabled by Round 2 or would have sub 10 models.
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Post by voodoo on Feb 22, 2024 11:59:47 GMT -5
Nah, just opens the door to war dog spam unfortunately. War dogs are all sub 200 point units even with enhancements.
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Post by distractedcarnifex on Feb 22, 2024 12:07:26 GMT -5
How about a Great Crusade that is actually a Crusade? No named characters, but we take our little force and see what happens through the day? Would have some bookkeeping. It would have some elements of Escalation as well, which could be cool. There could be imbalance by the third round, but maybe that is a feature and not a bug?
Or just stick with our current format. Which seems to be working!
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Post by Nick Gorrie on Feb 22, 2024 12:07:48 GMT -5
Nah, just opens the door to war dog spam unfortunately. War dogs are all sub 200 point units even with enhancements. sure. If u want to do that it's in the rules.... but is winning more important than having a fun game?
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Post by voodoo on Feb 22, 2024 12:21:36 GMT -5
lol, I only have 5 War Dogs; so I can't make a legal list with only them. I was commenting to your "sorry Knights" comment. Every army CAN field units; but you're right in that some are going to struggle.
Example 5 rubrics = 105; the only HQ that can run with them is a bare bones sorcerer for 95 points, or an Infernal Master for 90. Both of which choices your opponent will be thanking you for bringing because they're rather hot trash choices in HQ's for Sons. Scarab Occult Terminators are 215 for 5. About the only thing you could run would be MSU Rubrics and tank spam with a Daemon prince for Warlord.
Meanwhile Necrons are laughing all the way to the bank, with only the C'tan, 6x wraiths, monolith, t-vault, obilesk and Silent King locked out.
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Post by Nick Gorrie on Feb 22, 2024 12:44:02 GMT -5
lol, I only have 5 War Dogs; so I can't make a legal list with only them. I was commenting to your "sorry Knights" comment. Every army CAN field units; but you're right in that some are going to struggle. Example 5 rubrics = 105; the only HQ that can run with them is a bare bones sorcerer for 95 points, or an Infernal Master for 90. Both of which choices your opponent will be thanking you for bringing because they're rather hot trash choices in HQ's for Sons. Scarab Occult Terminators are 215 for 5. About the only thing you could run would be MSU Rubrics and tank spam with a Daemon prince for Warlord. Meanwhile Necrons are laughing all the way to the bank, with only the C'tan, 6x wraiths, monolith, t-vault, obilesk and Silent King locked out. I said sorry knights cuz I always forget about the smaller knights...
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Post by mrmanstory on Feb 22, 2024 12:47:55 GMT -5
For what it’s worth nick you are half right since there is no legal way to run imperial knights in the format. None of our small knights are characters. Chaos knight privilege
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Post by Nick Gorrie on Feb 22, 2024 12:54:54 GMT -5
For what it’s worth nick you are half right since there is no legal way to run imperial knights in the format. None of our small knights are characters. Chaos knight privilege in the warhammer app u can make the war dog stalker a character.... y (1985 points) Chaos Knights Strike Force (2000 points) Traitoris Lance CHARACTERS War Dog Stalker (185 points) • Warlord • 1x Avenger chaincannon 1x Diabolus heavy stubber 1x Slaughterclaw • Enhancement: Lord of Dread * This Datasheet also has the Battleline keyword. BATTLELINE War Dog Brigand (170 points) • 1x Armoured feet 1x Avenger chaincannon 1x Daemonbreath spear 1x Diabolus heavy stubber War Dog Brigand (170 points) • 1x Armoured feet 1x Avenger chaincannon 1x Daemonbreath spear 1x Diabolus heavy stubber War Dog Brigand (170 points) • 1x Armoured feet 1x Avenger chaincannon 1x Daemonbreath spear 1x Diabolus heavy stubber War Dog Executioner (140 points) • 1x Armoured feet 1x Diabolus heavy stubber 2x War Dog autocannon War Dog Executioner (140 points) • 1x Armoured feet 1x Diabolus heavy stubber 2x War Dog autocannon War Dog Executioner (140 points) • 1x Armoured feet 1x Diabolus heavy stubber 2x War Dog autocannon War Dog Huntsman (150 points) • 1x Daemonbreath spear 1x Diabolus heavy stubber 1x Reaper chaintalon War Dog Huntsman (150 points) • 1x Daemonbreath spear 1x Diabolus heavy stubber 1x Reaper chaintalon War Dog Huntsman (150 points) • 1x Daemonbreath spear 1x Diabolus heavy stubber 1x Reaper chaintalon War Dog Karnivore (140 points) • 1x Diabolus heavy stubber 1x Reaper chaintalon 1x Slaughterclaw War Dog Karnivore (140 points) • 1x Diabolus heavy stubber 1x Reaper chaintalon 1x Slaughterclaw War Dog Karnivore (140 points) • 1x Diabolus heavy stubber 1x Reaper chaintalon 1x Slaughterclaw Exported with App Version: v1.10.1 (38), Data Version: v336
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Post by mrmanstory on Feb 22, 2024 12:57:01 GMT -5
Yeah for chaos knights. Not for imperial knights. Only big lads get to be characters if you side with the big E
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Post by Nick Gorrie on Feb 22, 2024 12:59:14 GMT -5
Yeah for chaos knights. Not for imperial knights. Only big lads get to be characters if you side with the big E ah. Sorry... long live CHAOS!... LOL
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Post by mrmanstory on Feb 22, 2024 14:49:59 GMT -5
Since we’re bringing up ideas I would also like to see a 2v2 tournament. Sorta just teams light I guess. I think it could be fun though!
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Post by Jack Shrapnel on Feb 22, 2024 15:00:43 GMT -5
Remember we have only so many dates... So what goes for another idea... Crusade, Santa, clubs and teams are our main ones .. and summer tournaments are a really bad idea... remember intro to 10th how uncomfortable that was? Lol
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Post by raceygaming on Feb 22, 2024 15:20:12 GMT -5
Shannon does have a point, I do think if we plan or want more april -July tournament dates we might have to look at capping at 30 for player comfort.
We also have SBT as a space so some of the more niche tournament might be better for 18-20 players at SBT.
I'm thinking iron man might be one for example.
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Post by drew on Feb 22, 2024 16:29:07 GMT -5
Since we’re bringing up ideas I would also like to see a 2v2 tournament. Sorta just teams light I guess. I think it could be fun though! Duos would be pretty fun. I've seen duo events pop up online before, and I wouldn't mind giving it a shot if we found the timeframe for it. It'd be pretty similar to how individual matches from teams are so it wouldnt take too much getting used to
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Post by Nick Gorrie on Feb 22, 2024 18:40:28 GMT -5
What about a massive apocalypse tournament
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