Post by StepwisePilot on Jul 31, 2021 4:10:45 GMT -5
So, across various online Warhammer communities, people are calling for others to boycott all GW products. Why you may ask? Because of copy right law. Apparently if if don't defend your IP, you risk losing it, and many fans are angry with GW protecting their IP.
Ok, that is making it overly simple, but it is the basic core of the issue.
I don't have links, but I'm sure if you guys care enough, you can find more info easily enough.
Post by redshirt2375 on Jul 31, 2021 6:34:39 GMT -5
It's a times like this I think back on the nutjob who torched his rather large Dark Elf army to protest AoS
"Why do you resist? This futile attempt to escape your fate is only going to weaken you. I'd much rather have you strong and fit, for then your screams of agony will be all the more pleasing to me." Lat'visera Kell, Archon to the Kabal of Tortured Souls
Post by raceygaming on Jul 31, 2021 18:02:54 GMT -5
I mean I'm not thrilled with some of GWs policies or decisions but the models are really nice and I'm happy to spend money on them.
But for example GW switched Deffkoptas base size AGAIN and want almost 100$ to re-base... nope I'm going else where with locals if I can. GW isnt taking my money on stupid things like that.
I also understand peoples frustration with thier publishing cycle...$45 for what should be a free PDF that updates mission, secondary and point adjustment. That's pretty trash to treat you game base like that when 90% of those players would spend that 45$ on new models instead, you weren't really losing those hobby dollars.
I do understand that IP is important but some times it does feel like GW is more focused on squeezing cents out of current players rather than growing the hobby community to increase revenues. I think a softer approach to some of the IP stuff could have been used but I'm not a share holder so I guess I don't get a say, and that's fine.
I think some people are started to feel like some of GWs good will is starting to wane, but ya this is a very vocal minority that are screaming bloody murder.
I'd have put money on this happening as soon as warhammer+ was announced. GW isn't netflix. They wont be able to offer the quantity, or the production budget, for their platform to operate on that level.
To convince everyone that they are THE place to go for warhammer related media they need to chase off all the free competition. Especially when the quality of that competition is so close to their own. They can only offer so much, so one of the ways they have chosen to make their product more appealing, is to make the alternative less so.
Not saying I love their aggressive approach, but I get it. Their target audience is small, so they want to squeeze what they can out of it. That said, I've never seen any of the content created by those affected, so I've got no stake in any of this.
My only real issue with GW is their pricing model. But again, they know their market is small, so they squeeze us for what they can. Whether they would end up ahead if they lowered prices to attract more customers is a question I could only speculate about. However, knowing that local stores choose not to offer lower than MSRP prices, makes me think they (and GW) know that making a few extra sales wouldn't outweigh the profit lost from those who buy it all anyway.
And more to the point, GW isn't unfairly going after people for making content based on their IP, more that they're shutting down people monetizing GWs IPs. They've gone as far as to offer jobs to some of the creators instead of slapping them out of hand.
What a lot of the community is choosing to be outraged about, is creators who've monetized on GW's IPs preemptively shutting down before any of that happens, as was the case with Alfabusa's 'If The Emperor Had a Text-To-Speech Device' which was the catalyst of the most recent outrage. Even with fair use laws on such things like parody, it doesn't necessarily cover using trademarked names and places, though I'm obviously not 100% sure on the legalese behind it all.
On the other hand, if you've not seen anything from the Chaos Rising guys on youtube, who are literally making a movie based on the old world setting, I suggest you check it out. They just recently released a video explaining how they're specially not stopping and that they're in total compliance of all the laws behind it.
"The best way to defeat a Space Wolf is to wolf his wolf. You must be careful, though, because if the Space Wolf wolfs your wolf first, then your wolf is wolfed." —Attributed to Wolf Rider Volk Wolfclaw, On the Weaknesses of the Space Wolf Doctrine.
so it begins. Looks like a review for Warhammer + by Midwinter Minis ( pretty well know UK youtuber) was it with a Copyright claim. It is yet to be seen if it was an automated bot that flagged it or if it was a person. This feel like the slippery slope.
You can read for yourself but it looks like GW might be pushing hard than even DISNEY does if this is true since disney allows footage for reviews and such.
I'm hoping GW comes forward and says it was an over Zealous bot that picked up enough to trigger, but if this is what is happening its not good either way.