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Post by Jack Shrapnel on Apr 18, 2022 7:09:49 GMT -5
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Apr 18, 2022 7:43:50 GMT -5
Post by trantos01 on Apr 18, 2022 7:43:50 GMT -5
So seems like the next codex will be Chaos Marines. And after that....I forget, did they originally release the Knight and Chaos Knight codexes at the same time or different months?
Just trying to figure out a potential timeline.
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Apr 18, 2022 7:52:19 GMT -5
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Post by raceygaming on Apr 18, 2022 7:52:19 GMT -5
I think it's Knight/chaos knight Chaos Demons Guard
Or
Knights/chaos knights Chaos Guard demons
So hopefully 9th codex are out by June, and then knowing GW we will get 1 year of complete 9th and July 2023 will be 10th
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Post by Frosty the Pirate on Apr 18, 2022 8:05:08 GMT -5
So seems like the next codex will be Chaos Marines. And after that....I forget, did they originally release the Knight and Chaos Knight codexes at the same time or different months? Just trying to figure out a potential timeline. They'll come out together. Mono-Knights isn't popular enough to get a solo release and we've already seen the new model(s) coming that are all for the chaos side. We know since Knights lost their balance dataslate rules they are either coming immediately or very very soon. Given the fact the previews have zoomed over to CSM, I wouldn't even be surprised if we got CSM and Knights within the next 4 weeks with Daemons hot on their heels in late may or early june, leaving Guard for a late-June release. As mentioned above, they will be aiming to have the cycle complete by July 1st so they can give us a year of supplements and campaign books before rolling into 10th.
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Apr 18, 2022 8:09:43 GMT -5
Post by trantos01 on Apr 18, 2022 8:09:43 GMT -5
So hopefully 9th codex are out by June, and then knowing GW we will get 1 year of complete 9th and July 2023 will be 10th Well we're probably going to be getting at least one more release after those four given last bit of the Leagues of Votan post: So potentially after the codex's you mentioned are out (and probably some space marine chapter-centric ones etc) around the end of the year, they'll start doling out info in regards to the new faction.
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Apr 18, 2022 8:13:44 GMT -5
Post by lightcavalier on Apr 18, 2022 8:13:44 GMT -5
There is Leagues of Votan and SM 2.0 (as well as the still remaining SM supplements form 8e) all in the rumour hopper for after Guard/Demons are finally done
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Post by Frosty the Pirate on Apr 18, 2022 8:39:56 GMT -5
Back to the original topic:
CSM getting A3 base is pretty solid, given their general reliance on melee and "good enough" shooting this makes sense.
I worry a little so far that CSM will play poorly into damage reduction, given they just previewed heavy chainaxes (CSM equiv of a Thunder Hammer) at S+4 AP-4 D2.
It's literally the first preview tho, so why worry about it, I'm sure there will some fairly offensive-oriented spells that debuff enemies or push lots of mortals out when that preview rolls around tomorrow.
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Post by lightcavalier on Apr 18, 2022 8:47:07 GMT -5
Its a nice change +1W, +2A (but likely no more hateful assult), and +1Ld
Will make for a really flexible baseline CSM squad
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Apr 18, 2022 10:15:08 GMT -5
Post by Jack Shrapnel on Apr 18, 2022 10:15:08 GMT -5
guessing hateful assault will remain... been their thing for a long time.
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Apr 18, 2022 10:27:56 GMT -5
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Post by lightcavalier on Apr 18, 2022 10:27:56 GMT -5
guessing hateful assault will remain... been their thing for a long time. They seem to have been trending away from the +1 attack on the charge/getting charge rules (look at GK and TSons etc) Having 4 attack basic troops (5 attacks w chainswords) on the charge would be spicy I feel your like definition and mine of "a long time" are not the same lol
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Apr 18, 2022 11:14:15 GMT -5
Post by Jack Shrapnel on Apr 18, 2022 11:14:15 GMT -5
well "relatively" long time...lol
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Apr 18, 2022 11:21:41 GMT -5
Post by Khalai on Apr 18, 2022 11:21:41 GMT -5
So hopefully 9th codex are out by June, and then knowing GW we will get 1 year of complete 9th and July 2023 will be 10th I wouldn't expect CSM until June at this point unfortunately. It's clear Knights will be May since they haven't announced preorders yet. I think we'll be lucky to have all the 9th armies done by the end of summer, with distibution logisitics playing the largest reason as to why its taken so long. As for the base CSM having 3 attacks, that's a nice change, though I 100% expect hateful assault to disappear. Hateful assault was just like shock assault for marines, errata'd in as a stopgap in 2019. When was the last CSM book? It makes me wonder if Armour of contempt will just go away come the new CSM and SM2.0 books both of which will be soonish. The heavy chainaxe seems strong for what it is, though what do you create to make a thunderhammer equivalent I guess. I look forward to see what they've come up with, since they've had 2 years to iterate on it.
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Post by lightcavalier on Apr 18, 2022 11:24:12 GMT -5
The heavy chainaxe is a power fist with an extra pip of AP.....I think its strength will come down to cost and who you can stick it on in the unit
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Apr 18, 2022 14:01:37 GMT -5
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Post by brujonation on Apr 18, 2022 14:01:37 GMT -5
exciting times!! with 3 attacks base I bet the hateful assault will be gone, that's ok. I'm just excited previews are starting to roll out, that means the wait isn't too much longer.
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Post by raceygaming on Apr 18, 2022 14:39:03 GMT -5
3 attacks and exploding 6s is pretty good. Chain sword for 4 attacks and your doing better the same as orks in a waaagh but with better armour
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