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Post by danydaigle24 on Oct 12, 2012 8:45:43 GMT -5
So here is the list Im gonna bring for the tournament. Super Fluff but I think still playable.
Dark Apo Gift of Mutation Sword of Murder Mark of Tzentch
Troops
10 Chaos Marine PF 2 Melta Combi Melta Icon of Vengeance Rhino
10 Chaos Marine PF 2 Flamer Combi Flamer Icon of Vengeance Rhino
Elite
8 Possesed Mark of Tzentch 2 gift of mutation
Heavy
2 Nurgle Obliterator
2 Nurgle Obliterator
Land Raider Dirge Caster
Allied Deamon
BT/Blessing
8 Plague Bearers
6 Screamers
Dark Apo is going in the Land Raider with possesed.
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Post by Frosty the Pirate on Oct 12, 2012 16:40:26 GMT -5
Little bit of a low model count, and only 3 scoring units, one of which gets to deepstrike in blast formation. But assuming you can get preferred wave and get your charge off the with possess, you have a very strong offensive punch.
I don't remember if Blessing is the upgrade for it, but if you took the +1 str for the BT and you can keep him vector striking, he'll be very deadly and help strip hull points off so you can finish them with lascannons.
Keeping your LR will be essential, as losing 1/3 of your lascannons will seriously impact your ability to deal with mass light armour.
Knowing your Generalsmanship (is that a word?), I think you can do very well as long as you don't run into Nids or Orks.
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Post by LizardTau on Oct 12, 2012 17:43:48 GMT -5
blessing is the 2+ invul against psychic and force weapons, might is the +1 strength one if i remember correctly
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Post by danydaigle24 on Oct 12, 2012 17:44:12 GMT -5
yeah its +2 invul againts force Weapon. Ray I would have like to run 35 cultist with Dark Apo so I can have 4 troops but I just dont have the models. I will buy some flagellant to do the unit soon. Thats just a fluffy friendly list for tommorow because I dont think it will be a very competitive tournament tommorow and if Im wrong well to bad I will get my ass kick 3 times
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Post by Frosty the Pirate on Oct 12, 2012 17:59:16 GMT -5
Ah, I see. It's still a good list, I was just doing my usual analysis, you know me and my OCD list building.
I might to try drop by the tournament tomorrow at some point, later on around when game 2 is finishing or game 3 starting, just to see what's up.
Good luck tomorrow!
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Post by danydaigle24 on Oct 12, 2012 19:17:07 GMT -5
Thanks. I know you like to analize and its good that you do it.
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Post by danydaigle24 on Oct 16, 2012 7:40:19 GMT -5
Here is my revised list I want to try after playing my 3 game at the tournament. Im at 2000 pts also like Tom wich is extremly hard with that codex Dark Apo Gift Of Mutation Tzentch Murder Sword Dark Apo Gift Of Mutation Khorne Axe of blind 8 Possessed 2 Gift Tzentch Total Troops 35 Cultist 10 Chaos Marine CC Weapon Exchange 2 Melta Icon of Vengence Combi-Melta Rhino Heavy 2 Obliterator/Nurgle 2 Obliterator/Nurgle Land Raider Dirge Deamon Allied Herald Tzentch/Disc 6 Flamers 9 PlagueBearers 6 Screamers
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Post by Jack Shrapnel on Oct 16, 2012 8:12:41 GMT -5
I think you'll find the flamers and the screamers are going to rock alot of people.... gives me hope for the new daemon codex....
I'm assuming the two dark apostles join the possessed in the landraider???
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Post by danydaigle24 on Oct 16, 2012 8:22:18 GMT -5
No one with Possesed (tzentch) and one with cultist to make them Fearless and move fowards like crazy cultist (flagellant) that wants to die for Chaos...
and Screamers are great I already tried them during my tournament and my weakness was template wich I wont have problem with Oblit and Flamers now just ds in havoc line and kill them all... because you know people like to pack havoc or ML spam now its popular...
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Post by Frosty the Pirate on Oct 16, 2012 8:49:58 GMT -5
Havocs are the new Long Fangs, period.
I'd throw some tools at the cultists if you can find a couple spare points, since they are likely to be engaged in combat. Power Mauls are probably a good option, Not sure if you can take anything that would kill a dreadnought as that's really their only weakness.
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Post by danydaigle24 on Oct 16, 2012 8:55:32 GMT -5
Yeah right I will check that I dont have my codex right now good points... Probably a MM to the champion or to my DA....
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Post by danydaigle24 on Nov 25, 2012 19:53:25 GMT -5
Here is an other idea I want to try... Wanna try hades on the dragon since I already have lots of anti-infantry and needs more anti-air. Always in mind of a real WB forces.... Let me know if you find something is not WB...
Dark Apo Gift Of Mutation Tzentch Murder Sword
8 Possessed 2 Gift Tzentch
Troops
10 Chaos Marine 2 Melta Icon of Vengeance Rhino
10 Chaos Marine 2 Melta Icon of Vengeance Rhino
Fast
Dragon/Hades Auto
Heavy
Land Raider/Dirge
Allied Deamon
Herald Tzentch Disk
9 Flamers
11 PB
5 Screamers
Soul Grinder Plhgem
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Post by thesanityassassin on Nov 26, 2012 1:45:03 GMT -5
What does the Hades do again? I've always just seen the Baleflamers on them. More anti-air seems pretty useful though, especially with the Oblits gone. Phlegm is the large blast on the Grinder?
I think it looks pretty strong, and certainly Word Bearers fluffy.
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Post by Frosty the Pirate on Nov 26, 2012 7:40:46 GMT -5
Seems pretty solid, only 3 scoring units through. And you'll have to pick your target carefully with the murder sword.
I've never seen the Hades on a Dragon, for the points why not just get a Forge Fiend and get 2x Cannons and the reroll wounds/armor pen once a game for the same cost basically?
The Deamon allies look solid, I'm assuming you'd be front loading the flamers, screamers and the grinder and basically praying for preferred wave?
Since you lost a lot of AT in the oblits, I'd maybe also look at moving at dropping a flamer or two for a screamer or two? maybe 7-7 instead of 9-5?
All of those are just minor tweaks through, and will depend on how it feels while test playing.
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Post by danydaigle24 on Nov 26, 2012 7:46:52 GMT -5
Yeah I will play test for sure I have billions of screamers and I need to buy flamers.... I always play with 3 scoring in all my list so far and was never a problem...
I will also try the dragon like I said its for anti-air and I already have the fantasy terrogheist so its gonna be cool if it sucks I can always say its a baleflamer.. I also have the reroll pen on the Dragon and hit on 4 other Dragon and its also scary so people will shoot at hit for no reason haha
Thanks for the input...
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