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Post by thesanityassassin on Jan 25, 2015 17:30:42 GMT -5
C'tan power seem cool. Choosing a target before knowing what you're shooting at it will hurt though on a model that expensive.
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Post by Jack Shrapnel on Jan 25, 2015 18:14:39 GMT -5
yep... but with the god shard from exterminatus it will be awesome...
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Post by Hizack on Jan 26, 2015 7:24:22 GMT -5
When have you ever built your lists to include AA Shannon? I thought it was always a bi-product of wanting other things. lol.
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Post by cmcd on Jan 26, 2015 7:46:31 GMT -5
Don't know what I think of the S10 Lance Blast for the death ray. But it sounds like the transcendence ctan Is not a gargantuan creature so that's a plus. All those states changes are plus not one is negative vice tesla. So I would be curries to know what gets turned down. Still don't know what codex I will bringing to the championship, old or new.
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Post by Jack Shrapnel on Jan 26, 2015 8:52:10 GMT -5
given what has leaked thus far, you'd be crazy to do the old codex in my opinion  ...oh and FYI - bringing the old codex does not allow you to circumvent how Tesla works now... the Tesla rule has changed, so any "old" tesla will still not generate extra attacks on snap shooting... this was always a "contested" feature of the old codex where by RAW you could still do it, however GW have clarified pretty explicitly that's not the case... |
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Post by Jack Shrapnel on Jan 26, 2015 15:26:20 GMT -5
So I was wondering where the nerfs would come... well some are in here for sure, namely res orbs,tesla, MSS and veil of darkness!
"via TastyTaste on Bok
Wargear
Tesla: Doesn't work when Snap-Firing
Chronometron: 25 pts The model and his unit have 5+ invuln. against shooting attacks
Dispersion shield: 10pts Model has 3+ invulnerable., cannot claim Two Weapon bonus
Fabricator Claw Array: During shooting phase, instead of shooting, a model with the claw can repair a single friendly vehicle in base contact. D6 roll: on a 4+, restore a hull point or repair weapon destroyed or immobilized result, effective immediately.
Gloom Prism: Model and all units within 12" have Adamantium Will.
Mindshackle Scarabs: 10pts During a challenge, model with the scarabs causes Fear tests take on 3d6.
Nebuloscope: Grants Ignores Cover
Phase Shifter: 25pts, 4+ invulnerable save, Vehicles are not granted bonus.
Phylactery: 15pts,It Will Not Die, Vehicles get bonus
Shadowloom: +1 cover save
Shield Vanes: 3+ armour save
Artefacts of the Aeons:
Gauntlet of Conflagrator: 30pts, Template, S7 AP2, Assault 1, One Use Only
Nightmare Shroud: 35pts, 2+ armour save and fear. Once per game can force enemy unit within 18" to take a morale check (Fearless and Know No Fear units are immune)
Orb of Eternity 40pts, One use only, Resurrection Orb with +1 to Reanimation Protocols
Solar Staff: 15pts, 12", S5 AP3, Assault 3, Blind, Solar Pulse - Once per game, at the start of any turn, cancel night fighting for the turn. When activated, enemy units can only fire snap shots at the model and its unit until the staff bearer's next turn.
Veil of Darkness: 25pts, Deep strike. Once per game, can remove itself and its unit from the table and immediately deep strike somewhere else (even if locked in assault)
Voidreaper: 30pts, S+2 AP2, Melee, Armourbane, Fleshbane, Master Crafted, Two Handed
Resurrection Orb: 25 pts, One use only. Re-roll all Reanimation Protocols for one Phase
Quantum Shielding: No Change
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Post by thesanityassassin on Jan 26, 2015 16:00:08 GMT -5
Looks pretty standard for a 7th ed book....some cool options but a lot of the "broken" stuff from previous books got toned down. Res Orb got smacked pretty hard, and Mindshackle Scarabs got the Runes of Warding treatment - from Auto-Include to Never Include.
I wonder if they're going to pick up Skyfire now that ground-based Tesla isn't an option, or if their anti-air will be straight up from Croissants now?
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Post by Jack Shrapnel on Jan 26, 2015 16:34:34 GMT -5
From the look of things it's croissants... which frankly I've never really been a fan of so I want to avoid... but maybe that's just because of all the late 5th edition hate leveled against cron-air
sentry pylons have skyfire... but they're akin to taking a bastion with icarus... kinda meh
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Post by Chris McD on Jan 28, 2015 14:19:51 GMT -5
Read a rumour earlier today that Reanimated Protocols (RP) work after each unsaved wound. Similar TO FNP. So destroyers who now have 2 wounds. They'll have 2 chances ect. The RP can never be lower than 4+
Also that the dicuion formation gives +1 to all RP as a command benefit.
... so combine that with the formation benefit of rerolling one's. .. Necrons are still hard to kill...
Looking forward to Friday.
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Post by Jack Shrapnel on Jan 28, 2015 15:04:33 GMT -5
Yep, everything I've seen thus far says that it is one of those saves that's not a save thing like FNP, so you make it right away... this is HUGE given necron stellar I2. So you actually have a chance to strike back if you make your reanimations, whereas before you just had a chance to have some guys stand up after - and the risk of a failed leadership meaning all those guys were lost.
plus I hated laying painted models down on some of those rougher surfaced tables.
I need more destroyers... like as many as I can fit in a list... loved these guys before... now I love them exactly 2.3957 times as much (gotta be specific given they're crons)
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Post by thesanityassassin on Jan 28, 2015 15:23:18 GMT -5
Am I correctly reading that the whole army will have a re-rollable 4+ save that can be taken after regular saves? If so....wow. Starting point for any list should be about 100 Warriors.
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Post by Jack Shrapnel on Jan 28, 2015 18:39:38 GMT -5
not exactly if what I've heard is right (but haven't seen the actual book yet so this is JUST based on rumors)... reanimation can't go above 4+ but will still be normally 5+... res orbs are confirmed to be one use only... so yeah, for ONE turn it works... and is more often a 5+ rerollable for one turn.
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Post by Jack Shrapnel on Jan 28, 2015 18:58:03 GMT -5
There is a lot of images out there now from the new Necron Codex to take a look at. From Destroyer Lords, Command Barges, and quite a bit that you will want to check these out before the new codex hits in a couple days. Here is the link that you need. www.facebook.com/ForgeTheNarrative?ref=hl |
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Post by Jack Shrapnel on Jan 28, 2015 19:06:44 GMT -5
wow... destroyers get JSJ now... and two wounds too? I need more destroyers have I mentioned that? wait destroyer lords are jet pack infantry too?
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Post by calitom on Jan 28, 2015 21:20:45 GMT -5
NO MORE TESLA SNAPFIRE RAPING EVERYTHING. THERE IS A GOD.
Also the clarification that the shielding doesn't effect the rear armor, though that was pretty much un-needed imo.
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