New Daemon rules!

[Jack Shrapnel]

daemon formations here:

www.dropbox.com/sh/o5kkxubcjgcmoox/AAB4xRLnl-gC7BU2qjyXhENTa

[Khalai]

Neat stuff.

[LizardTau]

warp flame host looks pretty cool. locus of conjuration going to all units within 12" and then them getting a +1 str to all warflame spells of chance, you could have 9 units of pink horrors, casting str 7 flickering flame shots

[Jack Shrapnel]

From Faeit via B&C

"Information out of Warzone Fenris: Curse of the Wulfen is making headway. Now we are getting a good look at the some of the details for Chaos Daemon Artifacts.


Take a look at the latest. No pics are out on these, so once again, errors can happen.

via Goonbandito on Bolter and Chainsword
www.bolterandchainsword.com/topic/318590-rumours-chaos-daemons-formations-in-warzone-fenris/?p=4302545
They are listed as Hellforged Artefacts, and any model that can take an Exalted reward can take one of the new ones. They don't count towards the points spent on Demonic Rewards, however a model can only have 1 Hellforged Artefact of any type.

Khorne:
* A'rgath, The King of Blades: 15pts. S+1, AP3, Melee, Specialist Weapon, Blade King (Bearer always hits on a 2+ in a challenge). Demon Prince of Khorne or Herald of Khorne only, replaces the bearer's melee weapon.

* Deathdealer: 15pts. S User, AP2, Melee, Decapitating Blow (Instant Death on To Wound of 6), Specialist Weapon, Searing Gore (Each time a model is removed as the result of attack by this weapon, its unit immediately takes an additional D3 S3 AP4 hits starting on closest models to bearer. Bloodthirsters of any type or Demon Princes only. Replaces bearer's melee weapon

* The Crimson Crown: 40pts. +1 Attack to all Demons of Khorne models within 8" of bearer. Bloodthirsters, Demon Princes and Heralds.

* Skullreaver: 30pts. S Uer, AP2, Melee, Specialist Weapon, Anathema (To Hit rolls of 6 are Strength D!!!). Bloodthirsters of any type or Demon Princes, replaces melee weapon. Fluff describes it as a huge axe with a Bloodthirster bound inside it smile.png

* Khartoth the Bloodhunger: 25pts. S+1 AP3 Melee Sunderer of Time (When a model suffers any unsaved wound from this weapon, it is removed from play but make a note of the models position. At the start of each turn, the controlling player rolls a die - on a 4+ the model re-enters play via Deep Strike within 12" of where it was slain. Model counts as slain if the game ends before it returns to play). Demon Princes and Heralds only, replaces melee weapon.

* Armour of Scorn: 30pts. 3+ Armour save, Adamantium Will. Reduce the Strength of any attack that targets the bearer by 1. Bloodthirsters and Demon Princes only

Tzeentch
* Paradox: 25pts. S User, AP4, Melee, Concussive, Warp Contradiction (Once per turn when taking Psychic Test, bearer can pick up and turn all dice he has rolled to their opposite side instead (ie 1,3 and 5 become 6, 4 and 2). Lord of Change and Herald of Tzeentch only.

* The Endless Grimoire: 35pts. If your Warlord generates all his powers from Change, he knows all the Change powers. Herald of Tzeentch only.

* Soul Bane: 15pts. S User, AP*, Melee, Fleshbane, Incorporeal (AP is equal to target's Initiative. If target is higher Initiative 6, it is AP-. Against vehicles it is AP1). Demon Princes or Heralds only.

* The Oracular Dais: 35pts. Counts as Disc of Tzeentch. At start of each of your turns, choose one friendly Chaos Demon Faction unit that is reserve and automatically pass its reserve roll. Herald only.

* The Impossible Robe: 25pts. 3+ Invulnerable save. Each time wearer suffers an unsaved wound, must pass Ld or be removed from play. Lords of Change, Demon Princes or Heralds only. Note the wording on that downside...

* The Everstave: 20pts. Two profiles - S User, AP4, Melee, Soul Blaze, Warpflame and Range: Template, S5, AP3, Heavy 1, Soul Blaze, Warpflame. Lord of Change or Herald only

Nurgle
*Grotti the Nurgling: 40pts. Reduce the Toughness of all models, friend or Foe, by 1 whilst they are in 6" of a model accompanied by Grotti, unless they are a Demon of Nurgle. Great Unclean One, Demon Prince, Herald only. The fluff for this little dude is epic!

* Corruption: 25pts. S*, AP-, Melee, Touch of Rust (always glance on a 6), Hyper-infection (Hits by this weapon automatically Wound, no need to roll. Use the bearer's Strength for Armour Pen and Instant Death). GUO, Demon Princes and Heralds.

* Horn of Nurgle's Rot: 35pts. After resolving bearer's close combat attacks, add 1 model to friendly Plaguebearer units within 12" of the bearer for each enemy model that was slain. Models must be placed in coherency and more than 1" away from enemy models. Demon Prince and Heralds only.

* Epidemia: 20pts. S+1, AP- Melee, Specialist Weapon, Mass Contagion (Each time a model is removed as the result of this weapon, its unit must pass a Toughness nest or suffer an additional wound with no armour or cover). GUO only.

* The Doomsday Bell: 30pts. Counts as Instrument of Chaos. Whilst bearer is on the field, all enemy units are at -1Ld. Herald Only.

* Death's Head of Duke Olaks: 15pts. Range 12", S1, AP4, Assault 1, Large Blast, Poison 2+, One Use Only. Herald Only

Slaanesh
* Soulstealer: 20pts. S User, AP3, Melee, Soulgreed (each time a model is removed by this weapon, the bearer immediately regains 1 lost wound). Keeper of Secrets or Demon Prince only.

* Silvershard: 30pts. S User, AP3, Melee, Blade Blitz (bearer has +2 attacks). KoS or DP only.

* The Slothful Claw: 10pts. When bearer attacks in melee, roll one attack separately with the following profile S+2, AP2, Melee, Specialist Weapon, Rending. KoS or Herald only.

* The Forbidden Gem: 15pts. At start of Fight Sub-phase, after challenges issued but before blows are struck, any model in a challenge must roll 3D6 and subtract their Ld. That model suffers penalty to WS and Initiative equal to the result for the rest of the phase. Herald Only

* Whips of Agony: 15pts. S User, AP5, Melee, Agonising (the bearer can re-roll all failed To Wound rolls. Any model that suffers unsaved wounds cannot make attacks for the rest of the Fight Subphase). Exalted Alluress only....

* The Mark of Excess: 15pts. At the end of a Fight Sub-phase in which the bearer kills a Monstrous Creature or Character, it gains +1 Attack for the rest of the game. KoS, Demon Prince or Herald."

[Jack Shrapnel]

and then....


"More is coming in, as we now get a chance to see the Psychic Powers and Tactical Objectives for the Chaos Daemons. I am starting to like how the campaigns are turning out, updating multiple armies within a single book.



via GoonBandito on Dakka
www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/450/678007.page;jsessionid=4C536C8801D82E109DF56B8D77B222B7#8441822

I picked up my data-cards this arvo - no campaign book for me since a mate is already getting it. Didn't get a look at the Warlord traits in the book yet, but apparently there is a Tzeentch one that lets you harness on a 3+ (not sure whether that was on the Warlord or army, assuming Warlord only) and another Tzeentch one that turns your Warlord into a ML1 Psyker or adds +1 to your Mastery Level - which could be funny on a Khorne Demon Prince in the DP Formation lol?

Discipline of Plague:
Primaris - Stream of Corruption. Unchanged
1 - Debilitating Distension: WC1. Malediction on enemy unit within 24". Target cannot run, sweeping advance or overwatch.
2 - Plague Wind: Unchanged.
3 - Miasma of Pestilence: Unchanged.
4 - Rancid Visitations: Unchanged.
5 - Final Decomposition: WC2. Focussed Witchfire, Range 12", S*, AP2, Assault 1, Ignores Cover, Instant Death, Internal Liquefaction (*Do not roll To Wound. Instead, roll a D6 - if the result is higher than the number of Wounds the target has remaining, it suffers 1 Wound with the profile above.) Does not affect vehicles.
6 - Putrescent Vitality: WC1-3. Blessing that targets a single Demon of Nurgle unit within 24". Choose whether it is WC1, 2 or 3 each time it is cast. Whilst in effect, add +1 Toughness to all models for each point of warp charge it cost to cast.

Discipline of Change
Primaris - Flickering Fire of Tzeentch: Unchanged, other than to reword it to make it clear you choose the WC cost before you cast.
1 - Tzeentch's Firestorm: Unchanged.
2 - Bolt of Change: Unchanged
3 - Tzeentch's Warpflare: WC1. Nova, Range 9", S D6, AP4, Assault 2D6, Ignores Cover, Warpflame.
4 - Boon of Flame: WC2 or 3, decide before rolling. Conjuration with range of 12". If used at WC2, conjure 1 Exalted Flamer. If used at WC3 conjure either a unit of 3 Flamers or 1 Burning Chariot.
5 - Infernal Gateway: Unchanged.
6 - Prismatic Gaze: WC3. Witchfire, Range 18", Strength D, AP1, Assault 1.

Discipline of Excess
Primaris - Lash of Slaanesh. Unchanged.
1 - Acquiescence. Unchanged, other than to clarify that the Initiative penalty is to a minimum of 1.
2 - Pavane of Slaanesh: Unchanged.
3 - Maniacal Fervour: WC1. Blessing that targets a friendly unit within 24". Unit suffers D6 S3 AP- hits, but gains Furious Charge, Rage and Zealot.
4 - Phantasmagoria: WC1. Malediction on enemy unit within 18". Each time the unit wishes to Move, cast Psychic Powers, Run, Shoot, Charge, Attack in the Fight Subphase, Sweeping Advance, Consolidate or Overwatch it must first pass a Leadership test. If failed, cannot perform that action but may perform an alternative action in that phase, assuming it passes another Leadership Test.
5 - Slicing Shards: WC2. Witchfire, Range 24", S4, AP4, Assault 1, Large Blast, Soul Flay (After resolving the attack, any units that are under the blast marker must pass a Ld check or suffer a further D6 S4 AP4 hits).
6 - Cacophonic Choir: Unchanged.


And the Tactical Objectives if anyone is interested:
11 - Delight in Despair: 1 VP if an enemy failed a Fear or Morale test in Assault Phase. If it was against a Slaanesh Demon Unit, score 2 VP instead.
12 - The Cycle of Life: 1 VP if an enemy unit was destroyed. It was by a Nurgle Demon unit, score 2 VP instead.
13 - Touched by the Warp: 1 VP if at least one friendly model succeeded to manifest a Psychic Power. If it was by a Tzeentch Demon model, score 2 VP instead.
14 - The Glory of Khorne: 1 VP if a character killed an enemy in a Challenge. If it was a Khorne Demon Character, 2 VP instead.
15 - The Dominion of Chaos: D3 VP if you control more objectives than your opponent.
16 - The Great Game: Roll a dice at the end of each turn after generating this objective. Score that many VP at the end of your turn if you control the number of objectives equal to the number you rolled that turn."

[Jack Shrapnel]

...and then!


"Chaos Daemons are getting new Warlord Traits for each of the 4 Chaos Gods in the new book Curse of the Wulfen according to this. So 6 new Warlord traits for each god. Very cool, and a few of them look nasty.


Please remember that these are rumors at this point. From a different source, so there could be errors, or mistakes.


via anonymous sources on Faeit 212
Khorne
1. Aspect of Death- Units that fail a fear test suffer a wound for each point failed by. no saves of any kind
2.Glory of Battle. Warlord has rampage
3. Oblivious to pain. Warlord has feel no pain and all daemons of khorne within 8" have FNP 6+
4. Immense Power. Add 1 to Warlords Strength
5. Devastating Blow Can make a single devastating blow instead of normal attacks. The single attack is Strength D AP2
6. Rage Incarnate. Warlord and daemons of Khorne within 8" gain Rage


Tzeentch
1. Born of Sorcery. Warlod harnesses Warp Charge points 3+
2. Incorporeal Form. Enemies reduce WS and BS by 1 when targetting warlord/unit
3. Warp Tether. +1 invul save to Warlord and Tzeentch Daemons within 9"
4. Lorekeeper of Tzeentch +1 Warlords master level. If not a psyker, he becomes one
5. Tyrant of the Warp. Ignores first perils of the warp each psychic phase
6. Daemonspeak. Warlord and Tzeentch Daemons within 9" gain Soul Blaze


Nurgle
1. Blessed with Corpulence. +1 wounds for your Warlord
2. Acidic Ichor. Any wound suffered in assault, the unit that dealt the wound suffers a S1 AP2 Poisoned 4+ hit
3. Plaguefly Hive. Enemy units within 7" can only fire snap shots at Warlord and unit
4. Virulent Touch. A model that suffers a wound during assault, must make a toughness test or take an another wound. no armor or cover saves
5. Impenetrable Hide. Warlord gets feel no pain. If he already has it, gains +1 FNP
6. Miasma of Pestilence. enemy within 7" that suffer unsaved wounds during the shooting and assault phase take an additional d6 hits with poisoned 5+


Slaanesh
1. Celerity of Slaanesh. Warlord and unit can run and charge in the same turn
2. Quicksilver Duelist. In challenges Warlord re-rolls failed to hit rolls
3. The Murderdance. Warlord and all Daemons of Slaanesh re-roll 1's in assault
4. Fatal Caress. Wound rolls of a 6 by warlord in assault have instant death
5. Savage Hedonist. +1 attack characteristic for Warlord
6. Bewitching Aura. Starte of each fight subphase, all units locked in combat with Warlord must pass Leadership test or lower WS by 5 until end of phase."

[LizardTau]

Wow some of these are very nice. People may see the plus one to invul or the cast on a 3+ at the tournament lol

Sent from my SGH-I337M using proboards

[tyrnakandfenrir]

That +1 to invuls within 9" is pretty sick, combined with a higher chance of getting +1 from the warp storm table who needs the grimoire of true names. Apart from the SD tzeentch power I really like power 5 from Nurgle. Focussed witchfire so target that IC and they take a remaining wounds test, if most ICs have 3 wounds that's wounding on a 4 with instant death.

[garrett]

That +1 to inulve will be really strong with the daemon prince formation where they all get the same warlord trait. Making all the daemon prince 2++ if close to eachother.

[redshirt2375]

Feb 11, 2016 7:33:04 GMT -5 garrett said:

That +1 to inulve will be really strong with the daemon prince formation where they all get the same warlord trait. Making all the daemon prince 2++ if close to eachother.

The DP formation requires 1 DP dedicated to each God, so the Tzeench one would get the 2++, but the rest would get a 4++ for sharing the Warlord trait

[tyrnakandfenrir]

There's a bunch of fun stuff to do with those 4 daemon princes. How about 3 ML4 and a ML1 for all the warp charges they will need, important for the Tzeentch one which can't take the grimoire to automatically learn the SD power apparently, better chance at rolling for it.

[Jack Shrapnel]

you guys know how expensive Daemon princes are for Chaos Daemons right?

that formation is prohibitively expensive... like around 300 points apiece unless you're having them without wings, armor, ML and greater gifts... which means dead princes.

don't do it... it's a trap!!!! (~1200 points of your army on 20 T5 wounds with a 3+/5++)

I guess you could run them bare with absolutely nothing on them... and have 655 points of your army walking up the board with a 5++ save.

hmmm let me think... nope... super terrible idea as well.

I'd never run more than 3 princes for chaos daemons...and even that is pushing it.... sweet spot is 2... because greater daemons are cheaper and more powerful and more survivable in almost all cases!

case in point - a naked DP of Tzeentch is 170 points. a naked LOC is 230. Those 60 points give you a higher toughness, better psychic ability, wings and an extra wound. put wings on the DP and now there's only 20 points difference between them. no contest which is better....

... using a DP is because you have a greater daemon in the HQ slot and you've unlocked them as heavies, to maximize your FMC output.

competitively speaking of course

[Khalai]

To run that formation I would hit up 4 nurgle prices with wings and jink my way to combat and hope I don't fight tau/Slaanesh marines.

[voodoo]

It sadly has to be one from each god, can’t spam out only one.

[voodoo]

Corruption looks like an absolute wrecking ball to Tau or Wraithknights… Wounds automatically? Brutal. Also, the horn of Nurgle’s rot could be interestingly useful when you’re trying to have a herald and crew beat an enemy off an objective or hold one of your own in melee.