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Post by Jack Shrapnel on Jun 28, 2016 9:05:57 GMT -5
From war of sigmar... which is pretty dead on accurate in their rumours, especially when it comes right from Atia:
Howdy Guys and Girls 
A white raven appeared today and brought me a message - winter is coming ...
Warhammer 40k turns 30 years old next year. The new edition is due. The clock will be taken from 5 minutes to midnight to 1 minute to midnight with the return of the Daemonprimarchs - but will they return alone? This is the theme of the new setting - think along the lines of 13th Black Crusade - but this time, it's serious. They want to get the same excitement as the community had during the End Times - without actually going as far as Age of Sigmar did.
Chaos fans - this is your hour. Stop beeing grudgy, there will be lots of love for all of you - renegades, former legions, daemon lovers.
The lore already start to unfold, with the Shield of Baal and Warzone Fenris - so we are already within the action. As usual, this is a bit of an early talk, so stay cool and take it with a tiny bit of salt.
regards,
Lady Atia
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Post by raceygaming on Jun 28, 2016 10:44:02 GMT -5
Hmmm so we are entering 8th, meaning 3 editions in 4 years...sounds some what steep.
6th Ed dropped March 2013? so assuming summer 2017 for 8th.
I hope the rule books isnt $100 this time.
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Post by ohgodsnakes on Jun 29, 2016 9:48:07 GMT -5
Would be nice if they streamlined the rules a bit. Maybe it'll be more like a 7.5 edition, with all of the FAQ's taken into account?
Pushing the story forward sounds nifty too.
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Post by Jack Shrapnel on Jul 7, 2016 21:07:46 GMT -5
From BOLS:
There is a new edition of Warhammer 40,000 underway – here’s the latest scuttlebutt:
We’ve been hearing for several months that GW is working on the next edition of 40K. We’ve seen the sudden appearance of beta FAQs that continue to drip, drip release week after week, with months to go. Here’s what the industry insiders are telling BoLS:
The new edition is well underway.
Look for a rules trimming edition.
There is an internal understanding that 7th’s rules have gotten too weedy and wild for it’s own good.
GW is taking it’s time and wants to get the new edition perfect right out of the gate – with no rules-tweak releases down the road.
The art is to cut just the proper amount, neither too little nor too much.
The new edition will not be coming in 2016, there is far too much work to go.
A Calendar Thought Experiment
Now this makes a lot of sense if you put a rough timeline together. Consider:
There are still at least 8 more factions (if not more) that need FAQs released, at a rate of 1 per week. That’s just for the initial beta releases, to say nothing of the time to get proper feedback, and collate any and all results into a ruleset already undergoing streamlining and rebalancing. Now remember that GW traditionally releases new editions over the summer. Usually with the stand alone rulebook and the inevitable boxed set book-ending the long hot season.
It’s already July, and we have months of FAQs to go and the Summer Campaign for Age of Sigmar, plus word of new Codexes for Genestealer Cult and Deathwatch coming late summer/early fall. No significant releases come out across the late year holiday season (It’s all gift-bundles and Advent), or very early in the new year (when consumers are recovering and have less expendable income). Line all of this up, add in printing time and it looks like the realistic window for dropping a new edition this year has passed.
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Post by Jack Shrapnel on Oct 11, 2016 7:05:38 GMT -5
From BOLS so take with salt!
Industry insiders tell BoLS:
A Warscroll such as the Stardrake is said to illustrate several new unit layout and big picture rules mechanics making their way to 40k.
The new release will follow the standard GW rollout with at least three different versions, boxed set, rulebook, and others.
There will be changes to some core mechanics such as S vs T which have been static for several editions.
Again, look for a Q2 2017 release window.
The new edition is shaping up as a larger shakeup to the game than we have seen in several editions, but is NOT aiming for an Age of Sigmar simplification of the rules.
Previous Warhammer 40,000 Rumors 8-15-2016
Look for the new edition of the Grimdark to show up in Q2 2017.
The new edition is slated for arrival before summer of next year.
It will be a streamlined edition
Look for changes tailored to make the current game more accessable for new players.
Look for limited design elements to migrate from Age of Sigmar to the new edition.
This will NOT mean the Sigmarification of 40K, only a carefully selected set of rules organization decisions to make learning and playing much easier than things are now.
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Post by voodoo on Oct 11, 2016 10:37:03 GMT -5
Hopefully also the systematic removal of formations… I’d be ok with that.
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Post by raceygaming on Oct 11, 2016 12:52:24 GMT -5
Hopefully also the systematic removal of formations… I’d be ok with that. I feel like since they moved formations INTO AoS that they will stay around in 40k. I do wonder about the steamlining since they added a new phase for flyers. Could see something like the Hero/command phase from AoS come into 40k. No clue what to make of the SvT interaction change, maybe something a kin to WS which you always have a chance, even if it is slight. |
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Post by voodoo on Oct 11, 2016 13:05:58 GMT -5
That would bog the game down more though as you'd have X number of "potshots" hoping to get in that one lucky strike as opposed to now where if I'm firing a bolter, I know I won't do a damn thing to a Land Raider.
Also, if they keep formations then at least do some balancing so they make sense.
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Post by ohgodsnakes on Oct 11, 2016 13:19:07 GMT -5
That would bog the game down more though as you'd have X number of "potshots" hoping to get in that one lucky strike as opposed to now where if I'm firing a bolter, I know I won't do a damn thing to a Land Raider. Also, if they keep formations then at least do some balancing so they make sense. Maybe going back to adding a point value to them, like they did in apoc? |
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Post by voodoo on Oct 11, 2016 13:41:29 GMT -5
Maybe going back to adding a point value to them, like they did in apoc? Boom! Good idea, right there. Adding a point cost to formations will do something to curb the rampant use of them as really, there’s literally no negatives to spamming them aside from the comp system we had to enforce locally. |
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Post by Jack Shrapnel on Oct 11, 2016 15:33:28 GMT -5
In Age of Sigmar, there is a point cost given to formations which are legal in matched play.
formation doesn't have a point value it is not legal for matched play.
Solves a TON of problems, and since they already tested this out in AOS I would not be surprised at ALL if this is the way 40k is going.
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Post by Jack Shrapnel on Nov 26, 2016 19:36:05 GMT -5
via Dakka (so you know, some salt):
Next primarch release is Guiliman in a sort of dreadnight suit. Following him will be Ferrus! In short, his spirit lived on in the machine, so somehow he was cloned and is genetically reborn on Mars. Following those two is demon mortation.
The general jist is that ALL major primarchs are on there way back with the exception of Horus, Sanguinius, Curze etc.
It'll be a final seige on Terra and the next campaign will build up to the demon primarchs breaking in to the emperors throne room and confronting the man himself before the lights go out. No clue what happens after that!
In terms of rules for the next edition, all that was said was that scatter dice would be a thing of the past.
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Post by raceygaming on Nov 26, 2016 20:27:53 GMT -5
via Dakka (so you know, some salt): Next primarch release is Guiliman in a sort of dreadnight suit. Following him will be Ferrus! In short, his spirit lived on in the machine, so somehow he was cloned and is genetically reborn on Mars. Following those two is demon mortation. The general jist is that ALL major primarchs are on there way back with the exception of Horus, Sanguinius, Curze etc. It'll be a final seige on Terra and the next campaign will build up to the demon primarchs breaking in to the emperors throne room and confronting the man himself before the lights go out. No clue what happens after that! In terms of rules for the next edition, all that was said was that scatter dice would be a thing of the past. No scatter dice eh? Interesting but slightly scary. I know in Fantasy artillery went from good in 6th to godly in 7th with the changes to the scatter nice and measurement. I'd fear the removal of the scatter might do the same in 40k unless blast sizes are going to change in a major way. |
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Post by thesanityassassin on Nov 26, 2016 20:35:38 GMT -5
A move to a Warmachine like system with a template with directional markers on it could make up for that while getting rid of the necessary user discretion of the scatter dice...
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Post by LizardTau on Nov 26, 2016 20:44:20 GMT -5
if they go the aos way, then its just a number of attack instead of a template.
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