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Post by Jack Shrapnel on May 29, 2017 8:00:28 GMT -5
enjoy heretics!
imgur.com/a/kPLQc
(as in "enjoy all you heretics out there"... not you should "enjoy some heretics"... but I guess either works!) |
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Post by flyingnecronmaster on May 29, 2017 8:03:35 GMT -5
my dreams come true! Heldrakes are finally able to fight in close combat.
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Post by Jack Shrapnel on May 29, 2017 8:29:23 GMT -5
yeah they can grab planes with their claws... so cool!!!
oblits gained a wound, went down in points and can drop in from deep strike (with no more scatter!)
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Post by flyingnecronmaster on May 29, 2017 8:43:36 GMT -5
interesting. cypher is listed in the unique characters section.
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Post by voodoo on May 29, 2017 8:49:19 GMT -5
Oh my dear lord Ahriman yes. Rubric marines got a 9 NINE! point reduction. WOO!
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Post by raceygaming on May 29, 2017 9:23:31 GMT -5
Ya not sure where Matt Mullen got it but there is a table showing all % pts drops, some of chaos is dropping 32-47% per model!!!
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Post by Admiral Agrippa on May 29, 2017 10:36:15 GMT -5
interesting. cypher is listed in the unique characters section. Wasn't one of his options in a previous edition - 3rd or 4th, that Cypher could be accompanied by a squad or so of unmarked Chaos marines to represent a group of Fallen. I could be wrong though. Perhaps in this edition they've made it so he can call on a full army of them? |
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Post by cmcd on May 29, 2017 11:09:42 GMT -5
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Post by raceygaming on May 29, 2017 11:36:28 GMT -5
Yup thats the one.
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Post by flyingnecronmaster on May 29, 2017 13:13:20 GMT -5
interesting. cypher is listed in the unique characters section. Wasn't one of his options in a previous edition - 3rd or 4th, that Cypher could be accompanied by a squad or so of unmarked Chaos marines to represent a group of Fallen. I could be wrong though. Perhaps in this edition they've made it so he can call on a full army of them? Ye, I think I saw the Fallen listed in the area where all the units are. |
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Post by Khalai on May 30, 2017 0:18:38 GMT -5
Fallen have always been effectively chosen CSM. That was what they were in 3rd and 4th.
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Post by voodoo on Jun 2, 2017 9:30:51 GMT -5
I'll bet there's more than a few Death Guard Vectorum players that just did bike spam that are not so silently cursing GW right now as Death Guard can no longer take bikes; or a lot of other units for that matter... Come to look at it, my list might be invalid as I don't see the Vindicator on the list of units available to Death Guard armies. Unless I'm reading that wrong and you can take any unit from the book and they just won't count as "death Guard" for the keyword? Without the real thing it's all still a bit confusing. Attachments:
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Post by LizardTau on Jun 2, 2017 9:57:16 GMT -5
I belive you can take others they just won't get the death guard faction name so won't benefit from any bonuses that death guard give.
Sent from my SM-G903W using proboards
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Post by raceygaming on Jun 2, 2017 10:00:48 GMT -5
ya thats pretty confusing. It clearly says anything with the <Legion> key word can be "Death Guard", so I'm guess that's like everything that isn't demons or marines that come pre-marked like rubic and the likes ...BUT then they give you an approved unit list that says "if its not to the right its not death guard"  That seems needlessly confusing unless there are some clarification pages that have not been leaked yet. |
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Post by raceygaming on Jun 2, 2017 10:04:16 GMT -5
I belive you can take others they just won't get the death guard faction name so won't benefit from any bonuses that death guard give. Sent from my SM-G903W using proboards OH Jason might be right here. Since the formation that they have given read all units MUST be from the same faction, if you wanted a Vindicator you would need to take an additional formation to get that model. As it is not Faction "death guard"? But that kinda brings up which key word is your faction? Are you Faction Chaos, subfaction "death guard" or are you Chaos, Faction "Death Guard".... Again unclear... |
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