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Post by voodoo on Jan 27, 2019 12:18:24 GMT -5
I agree, it's a pain in the butt sometimes, but it forces you to slow down and really focus on the task at hand; or it'll turn out looking like crap.
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Post by Trickster Raven on Jan 30, 2019 22:47:37 GMT -5
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Post by Jack Shrapnel on Jan 31, 2019 6:44:37 GMT -5
looking good but might I suggest going back and doing a little tidying up? particularly, glove holding the staff, top fingers have metal paint on them, the right leg of the model has purple bled into it and the and the purple on the upraised arm could get cleaned up a bit. Just suggestions of course, but you always say you're looking to improve... the model does look good!
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Post by Trickster Raven on Jan 31, 2019 8:32:32 GMT -5
looking good but might I suggest going back and doing a little tidying up? particularly, glove holding the staff, top fingers have metal paint on them, the right leg of the model has purple bled into it and the and the purple on the upraised arm could get cleaned up a bit. Just suggestions of course, but you always say you're looking to improve... the model does look good! Thanks for catching that. Will do. It was late when I was posing and that's all of the stuff I didn't see until taking another look at the photo.
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Post by Jack Shrapnel on Jan 31, 2019 8:40:48 GMT -5
yeah have done the same thing myself... posted a pic up and then looked and had to fix something. Part of why posting pics and getting feedback is so good!
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Post by Trickster Raven on Jan 31, 2019 11:22:36 GMT -5
Details fixed!
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Post by Jack Shrapnel on Jan 31, 2019 12:55:05 GMT -5
much better!
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Post by voodoo on Jan 31, 2019 13:22:10 GMT -5
I think it looks good, very clean but a bit flat. The edge highlights on his sleeve are cool and bring out some depth; but maybe try doing a light ink wash or a colored ink on some areas to add in some extra contrast. Shades and inks can really make a model pop when used in conjunction with edge highlighting; and since you're now beginning to venture more into the edge highlights, inks may be a good place to look next.
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Post by Trickster Raven on Jan 31, 2019 14:35:50 GMT -5
Thanks!
What are inks? I know of them, but I have no idea how they're supposed to be used or what they do. Are they like glazes and washes, or do they have a different use?
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Post by voodoo on Jan 31, 2019 15:32:44 GMT -5
Ink, wash; same thing different name. Glazes are different, they're kind of like a "candy" color in car paint.
You apply ink with a loose bristled brush and allow it to flow into the recesses of the model where it pools, creating a shadow. They're thin, so it'll pull away from the smoother raised areas. There's a few different ways to use inks; below are the two ways my two main armies use them.
Nurgle/Death Guard - prime with colored primer - do brushwork - ink with reikland fleshshade (to make dirty/rusty) - ink with 50/50 beil-tan green ink & water (to restore some green to the armor and to deepen the murk) - edge highlight all bruskworked areas - done
Thousand Sons - prime with colored primer - ink with red ink - cel-shade layer 1 (primer color) - cel-shade 2nd layer (lighter red) - edge highlight armor - brushwork robes, metals, trim, freehand, etc.
My Nurgle army uses inks to bring everything down, then highlight back up for the "pop" colors whereas my Thousand Sons use ink as the "base" shade layer that everything builds up from.
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Post by Trickster Raven on Jan 31, 2019 15:39:44 GMT -5
Makes sense. I usually use some kind if wash for the contrast. This was a bit of an experiment to see how much I could do without it. Not enough seems to be the answer.
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Post by ohgodsnakes on Jan 31, 2019 15:48:47 GMT -5
The problem with trying to define washes, shades, and glazes is that they are painting techniques, rather than actual products. Sure, GW might call Agrax Earthshade a "Shade" but that doesn't actually mean anything about the product, just that its good for shading recesses.
Same with glazes. GW sells a couple (and I practically breath Bloodletter when doing my Blood Ravens. Seriously, 3 pots and counting). A glaze is not a classification of paint, but rather a technique of applying a filtering colour over a base. GW just happens to call their technical line of paints names for what they want you to use them for.
Inks are an actual product, but they are sometimes difficult to define as well. Most are made with dye instead of pigments, but not all. The signature features of an ink are really intense colour saturation and a glossy finish. For good examples of Inks, check out the Liquitex or Daler Rowney line of acrylic inks. They sell them at Michaels.
You can actually make a wash, shade or glaze "paint" by thinning down any standard colour to the proper consistency using the right thinning medium. But ain't nobody got time for that...
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Post by ohgodsnakes on Jan 31, 2019 15:50:35 GMT -5
Makes sense. I usually use some kind if wash for the contrast. This was a bit of an experiment to see how much I could do without it. Not enough seems to be the answer. I wouldn't think of using washes as a crutch. Even 'Eavy Metal uses washes. It's a completely valid technique that produces great results.
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Post by Trickster Raven on Feb 3, 2019 11:42:59 GMT -5
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Post by Trickster Raven on Feb 11, 2019 23:07:28 GMT -5
So my latest project wasn't actually warhammer related (heresy I know), but it was a lot of fun, and I think I've hit a new personal best. With that being said, I'm always on the look out for ways to improve and any feedback is welcome. imgur.com/gallery/UN96b8p
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