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Post by Jack Shrapnel on Aug 5, 2019 18:49:47 GMT -5
yeah good boost for iron hands. especially for me who likes to play lots of vehicles yeah was thinking your list got a pretty big boost right there |
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Post by raceygaming on Aug 5, 2019 20:45:05 GMT -5
What is the psychic awakening? and thoughts? I'm guessing it will be like endless spells for AoS but in the 40k universe...40 pts short throw in a psychic awakening spell. |
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Post by voodoo on Aug 6, 2019 9:11:59 GMT -5
...Be a tad miffed if Chaos Space Marines don't get a similar update. Agreed, the Non-Death Guard/Thousand Son "chapter tactics" are pretty weak compared to these newly update ones. Especially the whole part about having vehicles also be affected by the new traits... that one stings. Not that anyone REALLY would consider playing Iron Warriors, but if they had a traitor version of the Iron Hands trait, they'd at least be a viable option over the CP farm from the Corsairs. |
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Post by Jack Shrapnel on Aug 6, 2019 9:40:05 GMT -5
CSM updated codex 3? lol.... too soon?
seems as though the heretics are getting the bonus +1 to attack on the charge though, that's something right? That plus butcher's nails seems pretty darn good.
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Post by trantos01 on Aug 6, 2019 10:16:05 GMT -5
GW isn't even trying to be subtle here.  The Space Marines aren't kicking enough ass. Their sales are down! Release a new codex filled with new rules, buffs and abilities. Balance? Who cares about that?  |
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Post by artonas on Aug 7, 2019 12:36:54 GMT -5
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Post by voodoo on Aug 7, 2019 12:49:55 GMT -5
Wow... looking at the new rules and units; I'm very inclined to agree with Jonathan. Looks like the Space Marines are getting the Eldar in 7th "I have a unit for that" treatment.
Joy.
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Post by ohgodsnakes on Aug 7, 2019 13:46:40 GMT -5
Much joy Let's wait and see of course. They usually just feed the amazing rules in these previews to incentivize people to pre-order stuff. Let's not assume the sky is falling from some rules previews (Though I admit, if they bump the eliminator squad size up to 6, 5 dudes with las fusils and a sergeant with the hit-and-run bolter are probably gonna be joining my force) |
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Post by Typhus on Aug 7, 2019 15:29:59 GMT -5
"The most balanced edition".
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Post by Jack Shrapnel on Aug 7, 2019 16:40:32 GMT -5
so... a primaris rhino can have a 4+ invul save stock but my bloodthirsters can't?
(without a relic or burning 2 CP for a single phase)
ummmm.... okay
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Post by trantos01 on Aug 7, 2019 17:17:50 GMT -5
so... a primaris rhino can have a 4+ invul save stock but my bloodthirsters can't? (without a relic or burning 2 CP for a single phase) ummmm.... okay We can do a house-rule. Your bloodthirsters get 4+ invul all the time while my superheavies trade their invul for quantum shielding. -glares from the entire community-
Yeah didn't think people would go for that.
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Post by LizardTau on Aug 7, 2019 17:20:55 GMT -5
While true it has an invul. It has to give it up to have killing power. Other then some bolters.
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Post by voodoo on Aug 7, 2019 17:56:33 GMT -5
Plus, paying for the invul does still make it vulnerable to CSM psychic in the form of Death Hex.
Strip the invul, pop the zit, wipe away the crusty gunk that falls out.
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Post by Jack Shrapnel on Aug 7, 2019 19:40:14 GMT -5
you'd use your one death hex a turn on a rhino?
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Post by voodoo on Aug 7, 2019 19:45:31 GMT -5
Depends on what the rhino has in it, if it's lascannon toting snipers; then you bet your ass I'm going to Death Hex their ride. Intercessors, nope!
There are few models in the SM army that have an invul save to strip; if the target warrants the spell, then there's no reason not to use it.
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