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Post by Frosty the Pirate on Jan 7, 2022 13:56:50 GMT -5
well I missed that... so that will be an auto-take for biophagus... essentially he's 15 points more than his sheet. always. every time. kind of like an apothecary  hmmm I'm not seeing on that leak page where it says at list construction time. I mean I'd still take that upgrade every time then turn one give it to a 10 man aberrant unit, however if it's during command phase it won't work for ambushing from the underground. A trap sprung though seems very tasty with Aberrants. the exact wording is "When you give a unit this ability, select one <CULT> CORE or <CULT> ABERRANT unit from your army, then select one genomic enhancement for that unit to gain" It doesn't _directly_ say it, but it's as soon as you apply the points-purchased ability to the Biophagus, aka list construction time. |
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Post by Frosty the Pirate on Jan 7, 2022 14:07:46 GMT -5
Another leak I'm seeing from Zane Kane's youtube: Cult Creeds with traits/relics/strats/unique-psychic-powers www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8SQUUR7xkkEDIT: Twisted Helix, Hivecult, and 4AE all looking very good by my eye. The Custom Traits all have a "value" and you are allowed to select up to 4 "points" of them. AKA could take four 1 point value traits, or two 2 cost ones or one 2 and two 1's etc etc. |
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Post by Jack Shrapnel on Jan 7, 2022 15:13:29 GMT -5
well I missed that... so that will be an auto-take for biophagus... essentially he's 15 points more than his sheet. always. every time. kind of like an apothecary  hmmm I'm not seeing on that leak page where it says at list construction time. I mean I'd still take that upgrade every time then turn one give it to a 10 man aberrant unit, however if it's during command phase it won't work for ambushing from the underground. A trap sprung though seems very tasty with Aberrants. the exact wording is "When you give a unit this ability, select one <CULT> CORE or <CULT> ABERRANT unit from your army, then select one genomic enhancement for that unit to gain" It doesn't _directly_ say it, but it's as soon as you apply the points-purchased ability to the Biophagus, aka list construction time. well we'd have to see the datasheet on when the biophagus buff is applied. it's not at list construction right now, so I doubt it will be in the new dex either. applying an upgrade like chapter master etc. at list construction doesn't let you use the ability before the game starts! |
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Post by lightcavalier on Jan 8, 2022 8:24:49 GMT -5
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Post by Frosty the Pirate on Jan 8, 2022 9:36:44 GMT -5
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Post by Jack Shrapnel on Jan 8, 2022 10:12:57 GMT -5
hmmm combat patrol is pretty decent... everything seems really useful.
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Post by Jack Shrapnel on Jan 8, 2022 10:25:23 GMT -5
Some scans I found... then saved to imgur because I'm sure the GSC facebook group will have to take them down: imgur.com/a/W05PgmrI'm already thinking of a twisted helix list... really like that cult creed... but they ALL seem very good. Even the custom ones. |
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Post by Frosty the Pirate on Jan 8, 2022 13:52:27 GMT -5
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Post by Frosty the Pirate on Jan 8, 2022 14:13:08 GMT -5
www.goonhammer.com/codex-genestealer-cults-9th-edition-the-goonhammer-review/Goonhammer review confirms any unit arriving from underground may use it's command phase abilities immediately upon arriving in the reinforcement step instead. There's a whole bunch of problems fixed in one shot Edit: getting through the goonhammer review. Some really really really nice strats. Many abilities previously attached to other things have become strats and there's some very very good ones. A lot of strats proc off crossfire or industrial weapons keywords which makes loading up on those things pretty key. I'm a little sad my endless horde concept died on the vine. Even if you have an iconward and cult icon you are hard capped at returning 3 models to any unit or 6 to neophytes, so you kind of want -either- cult icons or an iconward, not both.
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Post by Jack Shrapnel on Jan 8, 2022 15:54:28 GMT -5
yeah I watched the whole video you linked, appears that all characters have a rule that when they come up from underground they can do any abilities that they could do in the command phase. That essentially solved most of my worries right there.
Yeah I'm not entirely sure that the banners are worth it, but maybe... Having a unit of GSC survive a turn when the opponent knows if they don't kill it they'll bring guys back... well what are the chances they'll let that happen? lol
excited to try out some new lists though for sure. The codex seems super fun!
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Post by raceygaming on Jan 8, 2022 18:55:19 GMT -5
Ya I will say GSC is going to be really complex and high skill leveled to get the most out of it.
Make sure you can move to get the exposed want to try to get into 12" to ignore cover.
Firing order also seems super crazy to optimize.
Overall pretty cool. I think custodes are gonna be in the same boat.
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Post by StepwisePilot on Jan 8, 2022 19:07:10 GMT -5
That GSC combat patrol box has a lot in it. And the Custodes one is impressive too. Well, in my opinion at least.
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Post by overwatch0clock on Jan 8, 2022 19:18:04 GMT -5
Well that custard patrol box is exactly what I need.
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Post by LizardTau on Jan 8, 2022 19:41:48 GMT -5
who doesn't need custard
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Post by Frosty the Pirate on Jan 8, 2022 20:53:53 GMT -5
Goonhammer article is stating the biophagus gets to pick which boost he gives to abberants, but it's a random roll when applied to CORE.
I've been slowly reading the full review and it's got my mind churning away already. I'm honestly so lost in the choices available already, which is crazy to think about for a Codex that's half made of character sheets.
This is going to be fun.
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