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Post by lightcavalier on Jan 27, 2022 9:41:20 GMT -5
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Post by voodoo on Jan 27, 2022 10:11:04 GMT -5
Well that sucks... the Orbital Ion Beam is basically a larger, harder hitting, cheaper version of the Thousand Sons Coruscating Beam strat.
Orbital Ion Beam: 2CP, 2 points 12" apart, 2-5 = D3 Mortals & 6+ is 3 Mortals, +1 if passes over a building
Coruscating Beam: 3CP, 2 points 9" apart, 4+ = D3 mortals, subrtract 1 if passes over a character, add 1 if the unit has 11 or more models
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Post by artonas on Jan 27, 2022 10:34:38 GMT -5
Woah is there no downside to targeting characters with that strat?
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Post by voodoo on Jan 27, 2022 11:01:50 GMT -5
Woah is there no downside to targeting characters with that strat? None whatsoever. Also, unlike the Thousand Sons strat, you don't need your warlord on the table to do it either. |
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Post by raceygaming on Jan 27, 2022 11:43:07 GMT -5
I think its funny that breachers are going to be -4 AP on turn one, with Mont'ka and 1cp for coordinated engagement.
With the devil fish scout move, then move, disembark, move + advance you can make almost anything be in 8" of them. Look out power armor!
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Post by dave on Jan 27, 2022 11:45:26 GMT -5
Does the thousand sons version trigger in the same way? I read to "use this in your command phase, and place markers, at the start of your next command phase, use the ability" and wondered how likely my opponent isn't just going to shuffle out of the way of 12" x 1mm line.
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Post by brujonation on Jan 27, 2022 11:51:20 GMT -5
Does the thousand sons version trigger in the same way? I read to "use this in your command phase, and place markers, at the start of your next command phase, use the ability" and wondered how likely my opponent isn't just going to shuffle out of the way of 12" x 1mm line. I was wondering the same thing. the effect doesn't happen until the start of your next command phase, so the target has a full turn to get out the way. kinda like the orbital bombardment thing. so like really it's mostly to try amd control where your opponents can safely go I guess, screw around their movemt plans or something. |
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Post by Typhus on Jan 27, 2022 11:55:53 GMT -5
The Thousand Sons version is substantially better - you place a single marker when you use it, and then later when it triggers you place the second marker. This lets the Thousand Sons player react to enemy movements, to some degree. That said, none of these orbital strike stratagems are really good. I think its funny that breachers are going to be -4 AP on turn one, with Mont'ka and 1cp for coordinated engagement. With the devil fish scout move, then move, disembark, move + advance you can make almost anything be in 8" of them. Look out power armor! ...Yeah. "Funny". |
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Post by ohgodsnakes on Jan 27, 2022 14:13:51 GMT -5
Yah, Ion Beam is flat out terrible, just like all "orbital bombardment". The fact that the enemy has a full turn to get out of the way makes it borderline insulting as a strat haha.
Yup, breachers in fishies are gonna be pretty cool. But they have to be. Without options to be good up close and personal, T'au are gonna be stuck castling up in the back corner again. Nobody, including T'au players, wants that.
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Post by lightcavalier on Jan 27, 2022 15:51:43 GMT -5
Yah, Ion Beam is flat out terrible, just like all "orbital bombardment". The fact that the enemy has a full turn to get out of the way makes it borderline insulting as a strat haha. Yup, breachers in fishies are gonna be pretty cool. But they have to be. Without options to be good up close and personal, T'au are gonna be stuck castling up in the back corner again. Nobody, including T'au players, wants that. I wish more of ghe orbital stuff was like it was a decade ago. Pick a terrain piece or objective in secret at the start of the game. Write it down. Then on a given or random turn it goes off. Sure it may hit nothing...but its not guaranteed to hit nothing like the current versions |
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Post by Jack Shrapnel on Jan 27, 2022 17:06:52 GMT -5
I think its funny that breachers are going to be -4 AP on turn one, with Mont'ka and 1cp for coordinated engagement. With the devil fish scout move, then move, disembark, move + advance you can make almost anything be in 8" of them. Look out power armor! funny isn't quite the word I'd use. |
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Post by dave on Jan 27, 2022 17:31:58 GMT -5
While I am excited that the codex seems to push the things I want to play (troops, transports, smaller suits, tanks), I really hope I don't end up in a scenario where I look like a cheese lord because suddenly all my favourite units are OP.
I did not envy the Iron Hands players who spent about a minute and a half super happy that their dread lists were playable, before realizing no one wanted to play with them.
On the plus side, at least I'm bad at the game?
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Post by LizardTau on Jan 27, 2022 20:02:56 GMT -5
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Post by dave on Jan 27, 2022 20:55:12 GMT -5
I like his info, but man I hate the cadence of his voice.
I'll still watch it though. Thanks!
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Post by LizardTau on Jan 29, 2022 8:13:35 GMT -5
youtu.be/QrOFW1AGRn0Not the greatest battle report but mini wargamming does a battle report vs sisters
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