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Post by lightcavalier on Jan 16, 2022 13:02:42 GMT -5
Pretty ordered is next weekend, so should be in our hands for the 29th
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Post by trantos01 on Jan 16, 2022 13:44:54 GMT -5
Well looks like I have two items to buy (unless they come as a set). Because from what I understand, not only have secondary objectives changed but they've also messed with missions as well meaning I'll need the Grand tournament book.
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Post by lightcavalier on Jan 16, 2022 13:52:05 GMT -5
Well looks like I have two items to buy (unless they come as a set). Because from what I understand, not only have secondary objectives changed but they've also messed with missions as well meaning I'll need the Grand tournament book. Last ones came as a set unlike the 1st one. So ill bet these do too |
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Post by LizardTau on Jan 16, 2022 14:53:09 GMT -5
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Post by Malarks on Jan 16, 2022 16:25:41 GMT -5
So long as we keep paying for these new rules books, GW is gonna keep printing them...
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Post by Jack Shrapnel on Jan 16, 2022 16:37:00 GMT -5
All tournaments will be using the new Chapter Approved rules, including club champs.
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Post by voodoo on Jan 20, 2022 10:02:26 GMT -5
Some fresh point changes. www.warhammer-community.com/2022/01/20/four-of-the-biggest-points-changes-from-chapter-approved-2022/Storm Speeder -10 Gladiator variants -15 Immolator & Exorcist -10 Leman Russ -10 Plagueburst crawler -15 Hemlock -20 Doom scythe -20 Night scythe -15 All ork Wagons -15 Doomsday Arc -10 Skorpekh destroyers -5PPM Ophydian destroyers -5PPM lokhust destroyers -5PPM Monolith -30 Obilesk -40 T-Vault -50 Silent King -30 Death Company -2PPM Mephiston -15 Nephilim jetfighter -15 ravenwing darktalon -15 Black Knights -5PPM Wulfen -2PPM Twolf Cav -5PPM Corvus blackstar -15 Primaris chaplain on bike +10 VOlkite culverin +10 dreadknight +10 volkite veuglaire & lightning locks +5 Foul Blightspawn +15 Hive guard +5PPM squigbuggy +20 beastboss on squigasaur +30 I can't help but feel like the dreadknights got off easy here compared to other units. Also, looks like the volkite culverins going up 10 points each isn't quite the nerf that was previously rumored; and I'm not even 100 sure if each one is going up by 10, as their wording is complete crap in the inforgraphic. Likely intentionally vague to drive speculation. If the contemptor itself also goes up, it'd be a 30 point increase on a double voklite; which puts them about 20 points below where I think they should be. But at least it's closer! |
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Post by LizardTau on Jan 20, 2022 10:08:28 GMT -5
Only 10 more points for volkite contemptors
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Post by cmcd on Jan 20, 2022 10:24:35 GMT -5
My list for clubs just gained 130 points
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Post by lightcavalier on Jan 20, 2022 10:28:37 GMT -5
Only 10 more points for volkite contemptors Which likely means +10 pts for 1 gun So likely 20 pts for the double version |
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Post by Frosty the Pirate on Jan 20, 2022 10:29:14 GMT -5
That's a LOT of help for Necrons. (and welcome I'm sure)
I'm shocked at the -5PPM on Tcav. I'll have a few tweak-points to play with perhaps if nothing else I use in that list gets a bump.
The increases are a bit small, but I think that's a sign of how much they think the new missions are going to impact things.
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Post by artonas on Jan 20, 2022 11:19:34 GMT -5
I'm Hoping with all the vehicles going down in points that my repulsor executioners are going down as well.
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Post by Jack Shrapnel on Jan 20, 2022 11:24:10 GMT -5
wait... dreadknight goes up by only 10 points and the ork sguigboss goes up thirty?
Hopefully contemptors see an increase as well, otherwise the volkite problem is still an issue as 10 points doesn't really do anything.
The rest seem alright.
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Post by raceygaming on Jan 20, 2022 12:03:38 GMT -5
I know as an ork players I think MOST of the adjustments were pretty solid and what I had planned for. The squig buggy and squigasaur both feel heavy handed I had them going up +10 and +15 respectively ( not +20 and +30). I did see a pretty official posting for orks that had the following:
Killrig +20 to 210
Squigbuggy +20 to 110
Scrapjet +10 to 100
Squigasaur +30 to 175
Kommandos +2 to 12
Meganobz -5 to 30
Mek gun -5 to 40 (excluding KMK)
all wagons -15 to 105 battlewagon or 150 gun wagon
FW kannonwagon -20 to 150
Killa kans - 5 to 35
Lootas -2 to 15
Giving what I'm seeing I really hope that they undo that stupid one unit nerf to the buggies now that the 2 best ones have had point increases, that should be more than enough to help nerf spam lists with the old 9 by 9 is up 270 points!!! which is pretty crazy.
Also it's egregious that Flash gitz are still some how 27 ppm. With lootas down to 15 points, I would have guessed that flash gits should be in the area of 21-22 pts. They have no melee weapons, they are still heavy weapons(should be dakka) and they only have a 24" range.
I did think that some of the support characters would we might see a 5-10 ppm drop as Banner, painboy, smasha nob and Painboss all see no play. also hoped to see a 15-20 pt drop on Ghaz; while he stays really good there are a lot of armies that can now handle him no problem by turn 2.
I am going to have to go back to the books with my clubs list that I thought I had since it is now + 122 points.
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Post by voodoo on Jan 20, 2022 13:02:08 GMT -5
I am going to have to go back to the books with my clubs list that I thought I had since it is now + 122 points. I feel like a lot of us are going to be going back to drawing boards once CA comes out this year. The timing of this one is just not good. |
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