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Post by Frosty the Pirate on Jan 21, 2022 9:24:48 GMT -5
Balance Dataslate in Feb.....ok... why? 3 months since November. They committed to a balance datasheet every 3 months. |
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Post by artonas on Jan 21, 2022 9:27:10 GMT -5
But I thought CA was the balance datasheet? Why 2 CAs a year plus 4 balance datasheets?
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Post by lightcavalier on Jan 21, 2022 9:29:14 GMT -5
But I thought CA was the balance datasheet? Why 2 CAs a year plus 4 balance datasheets? Becasue.....constant change creates chaos....idk |
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Post by Frosty the Pirate on Jan 21, 2022 9:37:37 GMT -5
But I thought CA was the balance datasheet? Why 2 CAs a year plus 4 balance datasheets? Because the competitive community can "break" codexes too quickly and dominate the meta for 6 months with just the 2 CA releases. With the balance dataslate, and off-set schedules, it highly discourages anyone besides the youtube streamer crowds who have infinite money/resources to build armies for tournaments that take advantage of too-efficient units, broken combos, and other things. Suddenly people are going to have to _gasp_ play factions they LIKE? or THINK ARE COOL? instead of whatever the competitive community says is the broken-fotm-build? What an insane world! |
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Post by lightcavalier on Jan 21, 2022 9:46:21 GMT -5
We get that...the issue is dropping an update with an update within 30 days of it, followed by an update in May with a new CA in June. (and the May dataslate will probably just be a preview of the June CA stuff implemented early)
The scheduling winds up being wonky with updates within a month of each other and then a long 3 month stretch of nothing but emergency FAQs.
The issue is that iot reign in the youtube/high tier crowd, they are going to throw out such a volume of little rules changes (which all remain in force until specifically invalidated by the next thing) that more casual players now have to choose between eithe rkeeping up or just ignoring all the changes entirely.
Take 2+ save leeman russes, will CA 2022 mention it? Will the Feb balance data slate re-publish taht information? Or will it just be left in an old dataslate until the new IG codex finally gets published.
Its a disaster of information management and user experience for the sake of trying to keep an extreeme minority for being dicks to each other with their toys
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Post by lightcavalier on Jan 21, 2022 9:47:23 GMT -5
Its like when I pull up a document at work that references a fragmentary order to an operations order, which was itself issued in response to a higher level fragmentary order.....and just to get the full context Iw ind up reading 15 documents
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Post by Frosty the Pirate on Jan 21, 2022 9:52:46 GMT -5
Oh I get it, it's fullblown information overload.
If only they had... maybe an app, that had all the latest changes auto-updated into it as they are released.
-glances over at warhammer 40k app-
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Post by lightcavalier on Jan 21, 2022 9:56:37 GMT -5
Oh I get it, it's fullblown information overload. If only they had... maybe an app, that had all the latest changes auto-updated into it as they are released. -glances over at warhammer 40k app- The best part is that the points are free in the app....even if you dont have the book. However they are all messed up in the army builder portion, but are usually correct in the reference portion. Only thing I would want to avoid is when I played infinity and they first rolled out their army builder online, and were chaning points randomly with no notice. So id build an army on monday to play a game saturday, just to have my list be wrong and only find out Saturday morning. |
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Post by Frosty the Pirate on Jan 21, 2022 10:01:20 GMT -5
Oh I get it, it's fullblown information overload. If only they had... maybe an app, that had all the latest changes auto-updated into it as they are released. -glances over at warhammer 40k app- The best part is that the points are free in the app....even if you dont have the book. However they are all messed up in the army builder portion, but are usually correct in the reference portion. Only thing I would want to avoid is when I played infinity and they first rolled out their army builder online, and were chaning points randomly with no notice. So id build an army on monday to play a game saturday, just to have my list be wrong and only find out Saturday morning. My _guess_ is that eventually the balance dataslate will take over points/army-balancing role, while CA will be more about missions and objectives. Meaning we'll get 4x annually points/faqs/balance changes, and 2x missions changes. |
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Post by lightcavalier on Jan 21, 2022 10:03:53 GMT -5
I would be perfectly happy with 2x CA booklets a year + 4x PDF/app updates with points and minor changes to unit rules....that would be perfect.
Its their insistance on selling a munitorum field manual that basically goes from the packaging to my fireplace.
Hell I would even just pay 40$ for the CA booklet without the munitorum part....
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Post by Hi I'm Derek on Jan 21, 2022 10:53:26 GMT -5
Imagine writing a balance update document while trying to peer six months into the future for a game which has huge meta changing releases every couple month.
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Post by Jack Shrapnel on Jan 21, 2022 11:22:58 GMT -5
Also we don't know if the balance update will be focusing on points or dataslate changes.
I mean who knows anymore, I can barely keep up lol
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Post by dave on Jan 21, 2022 13:55:36 GMT -5
I'm going to need someone to hold my hand when I get back into 40k in a month or so. Soft whispers of "it's going to be alright" would also be appreciated.
It seems like they built an app because everyone asked for it, without actually understanding WHY everyone was asking for it.
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Post by Hi I'm Derek on Jan 21, 2022 14:28:16 GMT -5
I'm going to need someone to hold my hand when I get back into 40k in a month or so. Soft whispers of "it's going to be alright" would also be appreciated. It seems like they built an app because everyone asked for it, without actually understanding WHY everyone was asking for it. It's the same thing GW always does. The solution to any problem is always going to be to sell you something. Including problems they created in the first place. If I were to put on my tinfoil hat I'd be tempted to say the system itself perpetuates the failures, because if GW weren't constantly patching a sinking ship how would they suck a hundred bucks a year out of you for balance tweaks? |
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Post by artonas on Jan 21, 2022 14:39:03 GMT -5
I'm going to need someone to hold my hand when I get back into 40k in a month or so. Soft whispers of "it's going to be alright" would also be appreciated. It seems like they built an app because everyone asked for it, without actually understanding WHY everyone was asking for it. It's the same thing GW always does. The solution to any problem is always going to be to sell you something. Including problems they created in the first place. So many people are willing to buy the app if it was a better system. The way they went about it was terrible. The fact that people can't buy digital codices and have to buy physical codices to get them makes no sense when there are supply issues. |
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