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Tau
Oct 23, 2015 15:49:57 GMT -5
Post by LizardTau on Oct 23, 2015 15:49:57 GMT -5
the armourned cadres sucks, and i wanted it to be good . the infiltarion cadre sounds good, 3 marker light hits and you take a seeker missile hit for free, nice, path finder just need to hit you three times and you take a str 8 ap 2 hit. destroyer missile str d if you use a marker light, omg strom surge just got hella good. they have what 4 of these things. and maybe other guys can take them like seeker missiles.
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Post by LizardTau on Oct 23, 2015 18:29:48 GMT -5
Mini war gaming has been looking at the new units each one a week. This week was the ghost keel. Last week the supremacy armour. And the week before the storm surge.
They looked at the models for free on youtube and put the models against things in their vault.
Next week will the the tide terrain thing.
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Post by cmcd on Oct 24, 2015 12:56:07 GMT -5
New prices are up on GW site. I like that they are selling new Drones. New drones can be built into either (1 gun, 1 sheild), (1 shield, 1 marker), or (1 gun, 1 marker) They cost $14.00 The crisis suits cost $90 and you get 3 sets of 2 drones. Doing some Math each Crisis suit is worth $16. Not bad considering the Commander is $60 with a drone.
I am a fan of not buying a new codex, only cause I had bought the Special edition last time. And honestly I dont want to replace it. It's nice. The fact that I can use it with the expansion makes me happy. Not sure how that is going to work. I worry about how Signature Equipment works. and if a stormsurge can take I dont know... a Velocity Tracker.
After going through the German Leaked Burning Dawn images. I see that most of the models are unchanged. Rules are the same.
The question is whether $90 for the expansion has the same information as $60 for the codex. Or if there are more formations in the expansion that are not in the Codex.
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Post by nsc on Oct 24, 2015 17:42:07 GMT -5
I can't endorse these drones, the price is insane
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Post by LizardTau on Oct 24, 2015 17:56:12 GMT -5
I'd assume there would be a few more for the campaign but I don't actually know.
I'd have thought the full codex would have cost more then the campaign expansion
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Tau
Oct 25, 2015 1:36:46 GMT -5
Post by thesanityassassin on Oct 25, 2015 1:36:46 GMT -5
That "expend a marker light to make Destroyer Missiles D hits" could get pretty brutal on an Alpha Strike if you have markers to go around given that the thing is a GMC and could cork off 4 of them at 4 different targets if we're going by the "counts as a separate weapon" ruling the way Seekers do!
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Post by LizardTau on Oct 25, 2015 6:03:47 GMT -5
Yeah.
Also was just thinking about one of the minor changes that are going to make the tau dex over the top if someone has the money.
Riptides are now 1-3. That mean you can field 9 in a normal cad with two troops and an ethereals
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Tau
Oct 25, 2015 9:11:48 GMT -5
Post by Jack Shrapnel on Oct 25, 2015 9:11:48 GMT -5
well to be fair they also added:
formations stormsurge ghostkeel new commander options breachers new drones you can now squadron riptides updated systems/rules such as fireteam ne
plus some seriously cool new plastic kits for commander, ghostkeel, firewarriors, hover ethereal
you have what, vespid as a not great choice now?
Tau was a great book before, one of the top five competitive armies in play. They didn't need a huge overhaul. and trust me you don't want a huge overhaul. look at the last couple books for nids.
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Tau
Oct 25, 2015 9:54:40 GMT -5
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Post by voodoo on Oct 25, 2015 9:54:40 GMT -5
I agree with Shannon, don't complain about what you got until you've walked a few editions in CSM's shoes.
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Post by LizardTau on Oct 25, 2015 10:32:00 GMT -5
Images of the codex are on the tau empire Facebook. Wasn't sure if you want me to post them all on here or not. If so it will have to wait until I'm on the computer but they are out there.
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Tau
Oct 25, 2015 16:41:56 GMT -5
Post by Jack Shrapnel on Oct 25, 2015 16:41:56 GMT -5
so here's basically all the rules from the codex including the dataslates for all the units: linkenjoy
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Post by LizardTau on Oct 25, 2015 17:04:33 GMT -5
One thing I'm super disappointed about is that the deployable turrets are a support system. Meaning only suits can take them. I wanted fire warriors to be able to take them. So sad. Sent from my SGH-I337M using proboards
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Post by nsc on Oct 25, 2015 20:19:49 GMT -5
If you're unhappy with this tau codex may I politely suggest that you take orks to the club championship
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Tau
Oct 25, 2015 23:31:36 GMT -5
Post by cmcd on Oct 25, 2015 23:31:36 GMT -5
The Optimized Stealth Cadre in a Hunter contigent is mean. If all the units fire at the same target. They get Plus 2 to the BS and Ignores cover. That makes stealth teams BS 5 and the ghost keels ... wait if you take three. then is Plus 3 to the BS 5 or 6. Mmmmm Burst Cannon overload. Also Suits cant take the Turret thingy. It's not in the support system list. Must be a support system that only certain units can take. I like this dex. Building list now. They fixed the wording for taking two weapons on a battlesuit of the same type. you can take a single weapon or a Tl weapon which counts as two weapons. Air bursting frag launcher and the Cylic Ion blaster are no longer one time items. Units can take multiples. Crisis suits with Ion or a unit of 3 Crisis suits each with 2 Airbursting Frag Launchers. thats 6 Str 4 AP 5 Large blast Ignores Cover BARRAGE. Crisis Suits Can have a Unit of 9!!!! WTF. A unit with 18 Frag Launchers..... How to slow down a game 101.
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Tau
Oct 25, 2015 23:56:23 GMT -5
Post by calitom on Oct 25, 2015 23:56:23 GMT -5
Disappointed to see batman is still around and there's little incentive to change the meta Tau list. Overall the new models look cool, but I'm unimpressed with them and the formations at this time. We'll see how I feel after I play against them.
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