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Post by Khalai on Jun 13, 2017 9:20:34 GMT -5
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Post by Jack Shrapnel on Jun 13, 2017 14:51:19 GMT -5
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Post by LizardTau on Jun 13, 2017 16:04:28 GMT -5
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Post by Jack Shrapnel on Jun 13, 2017 16:46:28 GMT -5
yup... pretty much this... common sense...
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Post by danny1995 on Jun 13, 2017 16:47:03 GMT -5
Looks like they're basing most of their decisions on logic and how AoS does things. The best way to do it.
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Post by Jack Shrapnel on Jun 13, 2017 16:56:37 GMT -5
huh... what do you know.... just realized this...
KDK isn't a thing anymore... it's gone off the GW site...
I guess you can still technically build a combination of Khorne CSM and Khorne Daemons... but blood tithe... such a fun mechanic gone!
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Post by voodoo on Jun 13, 2017 17:40:29 GMT -5
Except the one about your 3+ missing and not getting a re-roll when firing at a unit that gives you a -1 to hit.
That's a head scratcher.
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Post by LizardTau on Jun 13, 2017 17:49:45 GMT -5
It's cause rerolls are before modifiers.
So if you hit on a 3+. And you roll a three you would normally hit so you don't get a reroll. Then modifiers are added so you now miss.
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Post by voodoo on Jun 13, 2017 17:59:54 GMT -5
Yeah, that's the first thing that's flat out dumb.
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Post by LizardTau on Jun 13, 2017 18:04:03 GMT -5
Oh I know. For a system that suppose to be simpler.
Sent from my SM-G903W using proboards
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Post by Jack Shrapnel on Jun 13, 2017 18:09:20 GMT -5
because that's not supposed to be how it works.... as clearly outlined in the miniwargaming FAQ above.
but as usual, the game isn't even released yet and people are trying to break shit.
EDIT: let me give another interpretation....
player A is shooting at something that gives a -1
they normally need 3's but realize that they are going to be needing 4's
therefore they choose to reroll their 1,2,3 results because they know that the -1 is going to be applied to their target, because they realize that 3 result will miss.... and the result being unsuccessful (which it will be) is the only criteria to apply a reroll to.
ergo, rule still works fine...
it doesn't create a magical loop where you have to take a result that doesn't hit even though you have rerolls to try again. that interpretation of how that works is reaching a bit... but I'm sure GW will need to FAQ it because someone will try to pull it.
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Post by LizardTau on Jun 13, 2017 18:40:39 GMT -5
from the mini wargaming faq:
Q. Adding onto that, if I have a BS of 3+ and I am shooting at an enemy that has an ability that gives me -1 on my hit-rolls, but I have a buff that let's me re-roll all failed hit rolls, does that mean that when I roll 3s that I don't reroll those, even though they would fail?
A. That is correct. It is really weird, but that is how it is played. Even though the 3 would mean that it misses after modifiers, since it doesn't miss before modifiers you can't re-roll it with that ability.
Note: they edited it i assume cause people said they were wrong
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Post by LizardTau on Jun 13, 2017 18:57:02 GMT -5
I think we need to wait for official faq.
It's flip flopping all over lol
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Post by Jack Shrapnel on Jun 13, 2017 21:57:26 GMT -5
well that just figures... it's dumb... they'll fix it because a bunch of people will bring it up to them...
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Post by Jack Shrapnel on Jun 16, 2017 11:24:56 GMT -5
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