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Post by LizardTau on Nov 21, 2017 19:47:45 GMT -5
intercessors are down 2 points per model. and vindicators down another 10 points.
also decrease in drop pods. and other things for marines. (i dont play the other armies so i dont know the points changes)
also sad no tau rumours :(lol
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Post by trantos01 on Nov 21, 2017 23:38:24 GMT -5
Let's see if there's anything interesting for my army....
My my, Wraiths just got a shot in the arm in terms of survivability (wouldn't use it on scarabs of course). Would want a cryptek nearby assuming they can benefit from his buff.
Would have to see the complete wording for this. Because from the way it's written here, you could haul entire monoliths or other vehicles around the map with this relic. I'm guessing there are a few more limitations other then one unit in 3'.
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Post by Jack Shrapnel on Nov 22, 2017 6:37:53 GMT -5
sounds like bearer plus a unit... you could totally move a monolith as your one unit if you wanted after all other movement is done (end of movement phase). Seems like there's some good uses for this, but given it's one use per battle it doesn't seem broken or anything.
the canoptek strategem on wraiths with a nearby cryptek seems fantastic for that one big charge that you know is going to be crucial.
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Post by thesanityassassin on Nov 22, 2017 10:50:09 GMT -5
intercessors are down 2 points per model. and vindicators down another 10 points. also decrease in drop pods. and other things for marines. (i dont play the other armies so i dont know the points changes) also sad no tau rumours :(lol I'm mostly hoping they fix the points on those Primaris jump troops. They're cool as hell, but just comically expensive. |
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Post by trantos01 on Nov 22, 2017 10:53:16 GMT -5
sounds like bearer plus a unit... you could totally move a monolith as your one unit if you wanted after all other movement is done (end of movement phase). Seems like there's some good uses for this, but given it's one use per battle it doesn't seem broken or anything. Not just moving closer to the enemy. Because there don't seem to be any limitations about the state of the bearer and the unit before the teleportation. So say your relic bearer and a big block of warriors are in a melee because your opponent managed to get off that annoying turn 1 charge. You can remove them from that fight and then set them up in safety within rapid fire range to unload on the enemy. After all it's written as 'remove and set up' so it shouldn't be counted as falling back. |
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Post by ohgodsnakes on Nov 22, 2017 10:57:27 GMT -5
intercessors are down 2 points per model. and vindicators down another 10 points. also decrease in drop pods. and other things for marines. (i dont play the other armies so i dont know the points changes) also sad no tau rumours :(lol I'm mostly hoping they fix the points on those Primaris jump troops. They're cool as hell, but just comically expensive. According to the Blood of Kittens leak compilation, the inceptors are down to 25 (from 30), assault bolters down to 10 each (from 15 each) and Plasma Exterminators down to 17 each (from 28 each). So 3 man bolter team is now 135 instead of 180 (25% reduction) and a 3 man plasma is 177 instead of 258 (31% reduction) |
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Post by Jack Shrapnel on Nov 22, 2017 11:01:48 GMT -5
sounds like bearer plus a unit... you could totally move a monolith as your one unit if you wanted after all other movement is done (end of movement phase). Seems like there's some good uses for this, but given it's one use per battle it doesn't seem broken or anything. Not just moving closer to the enemy. Because there don't seem to be any limitations about the state of the bearer and the unit before the teleportation. So say your relic bearer and a big block of warriors are in a melee because your opponent managed to get off that annoying turn 1 charge. You can remove them from that fight and then set them up in safety within rapid fire range to unload on the enemy. After all it's written as 'remove and set up' so it shouldn't be counted as falling back.
This wouldn't count as falling back as it's remove and set up
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Post by voodoo on Nov 22, 2017 11:12:34 GMT -5
Depending on how many models/units the Monolith can transport, you could use this as a massive re-deployment trick. Re-deploy the monolith then unload the units contained within it; unless I’m mistaken on how many “units” a loaded transport counts as on the table.
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Post by ohgodsnakes on Nov 22, 2017 11:15:04 GMT -5
www.warhammer-community.com/2017/11/22/get-ready-for-chapter-approved-matched-play-updates-nov-22gw-homepage-post-3/Matched play updates. Whelp, I'm not to big of a man to admit when I was wrong. Looks like they ARE adjusting FW prices in a GW prime book. I, for one, think this is a good move. It indicates that maybe one day we'll be able to get all the rules for the models available in one place. Big standouts are the Triumverate of the Emperium getting a price hike, Malific lords up to 80(!) points, and a clarification on when the Command Re-Roll stratagem can and can not be used.
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Post by Jack Shrapnel on Nov 22, 2017 11:41:10 GMT -5
Depending on how many models/units the Monolith can transport, you could use this as a massive re-deployment trick. Re-deploy the monolith then unload the units contained within it; unless I’m mistaken on how many “units” a loaded transport counts as on the table. the redeploy is at the end of the movement phase so I don't believe you can clown car out of a monolith... the Monolith can bring in one unit in the movement phase that is deployed off in the tomb world.
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Post by Jack Shrapnel on Nov 22, 2017 11:46:56 GMT -5
www.warhammer-community.com/2017/11/22/get-ready-for-chapter-approved-matched-play-updates-nov-22gw-homepage-post-3/Matched play updates. Whelp, I'm not to big of a man to admit when I was wrong. Looks like they ARE adjusting FW prices in a GW prime book. I, for one, think this is a good move. It indicates that maybe one day we'll be able to get all the rules for the models available in one place. Big standouts are the Triumverate of the Emperium getting a price hike, Malific lords up to 80(!) points, and a clarification on when the Command Re-Roll stratagem can and can not be used. some tweaks to character targeting shenanigans with LOS manipulation sounds like a much needed plan...
.... believe I warned people not to buy into the malefic lord trap...lol.... 80 points is nearly TRIPLE their previous points... GW is watching and listening to feedback... broken combos that break the game are getting stopped in short order, unlike some of the plagues from previous editions.
While they don't specifically name them, I'm guessing Malanthropes will get a point hike, as there's currently no competition between them and venomthropes, and I'm assuming given the nid book is so new anything in it is pointed as per chapter approved.
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Post by Khalai on Nov 22, 2017 15:43:21 GMT -5
If the Sicaran Venerator is 100 points less, then I'm hoping that the other variants get similar (proportional) discounts, so that the 2 I have don't just collect dust for all eternity.
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Post by voodoo on Nov 22, 2017 18:18:16 GMT -5
I was cautiously optimistic at that news as well. The Sicaran got the Riptide treatment. It was too good before so it got blown way out of it's point range.
I am however glad that they're paying close attention to things and actively balancing things.
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Post by LizardTau on Nov 22, 2017 18:24:01 GMT -5
I was cautiously optimistic at that news as well. The Sicaran got the Riptide treatment. It was too good before so it got blown way out of it's point range. I am however glad that they're paying close attention to things and actively balancing things. I'm hoping my two very nicely painted riptides can come out to play at some time soon. That said I'm really enjoying my list that have right now for tau. |
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Post by thesanityassassin on Nov 22, 2017 23:20:30 GMT -5
Hmm a Venator was next on my "buy this because it's cool" list - now it might actually be playable!
I'm imagining my Scorpius is gonna cost a bit more as it stands - thing is damn brutal.
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