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Post by Jack Shrapnel on Mar 28, 2018 11:10:50 GMT -5
I also don't really know Y'nnari at all (so this might be already known info) but this was in there:
"the Haemonculus Covens are the only Aeldari to universally refuse the offer of the Ynnari, instead pursuing their own mysterious agendas…" I believe that was in the Gathering Storm fluff. The Haemonculus are not fans of the Ynnari's "lifestyle choices" me neither... |
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Post by trantos01 on Mar 28, 2018 11:48:55 GMT -5
Nonsense, the Ynnari way of life is 100% Farseer approved! Who could possibly has reservations about it after Ynnari has been vouched for such trust-worthy and honest individuals?  |
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Post by Frosty the Pirate on Mar 28, 2018 11:50:37 GMT -5
I may need to join the dark side, they have cookies... Everything is looking really good so far...
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Post by Jack Shrapnel on Mar 28, 2018 11:54:38 GMT -5
I've always been tempted by the thoughts of creating a "dark circus" themed Homonculous army (ringmaster characters, twisted clowns etc.)
....this might happen now with the new book...
hmmm maybe I should sell an army to make an army... that's fiscally responsible right? lol
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Post by kaelon on Mar 28, 2018 15:13:48 GMT -5
That is probably one of the coolest ideas for a haemonculus Coven I have heard to date, digital high five for you my good sir
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Post by Khalai on Mar 28, 2018 16:27:11 GMT -5
The Ynnari info was always out there, and actually even in the index books (Ynnari could not take any Coven units).
Covens are tempting, but I'll wait until the wyches stuff comes out to make a judgement. Kabals are still looking tops to me.
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Post by thesanityassassin on Mar 28, 2018 23:16:29 GMT -5
I've always been tempted by the thoughts of creating a "dark circus" themed Homonculous army (ringmaster characters, twisted clowns etc.) ....this might happen now with the new book... hmmm maybe I should sell an army to make an army... that's fiscally responsible right? lol Hmm, anything Devil's Carnival or Repo feel like they'd go along well with this |
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Post by raceygaming on Mar 29, 2018 7:00:04 GMT -5
The Ynnari info was always out there, and actually even in the index books (Ynnari could not take any Coven units). Covens are tempting, but I'll wait until the wyches stuff comes out to make a judgement. Kabals are still looking tops to me. Year of the Wych!!! |
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Post by voodoo on Mar 29, 2018 9:13:46 GMT -5
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Post by Jack Shrapnel on Mar 29, 2018 9:47:57 GMT -5
oh man... they're SO much better now... kill screen, consolidate into combat with something tasty... kill again with the stratagem
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Post by Frosty the Pirate on Mar 29, 2018 9:50:41 GMT -5
Wyches have always had an invul in the fight phase, T3 still folds to bolters. But that cost reduction is pretty significant. 8 points a model is MUCH cheaper than in the past.
Not particularly impressed except by the Advance & Charge Strategem. Which is a big deal.
Dark Eldar look like they will be back to the ultimate drive-by gang fight style they should be. Raiders full of shooting units and blasters, wyches jumping out to mop-up afterwards. And obviously every unit having INSANE movement levels.
Looks tempting for sure.
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Post by Jack Shrapnel on Mar 29, 2018 10:15:33 GMT -5
well a 6++ vs. shooting, significant point reduction, obsession bonuses and stratagems are all positives...
plus who cares about T3 when you're deep striking 9" away in a raider, piling out with 20 girls and charging (rerollable with an obsession) for 81 attacks, possibly twice in a row if you spend the CP
T3 doesn't matter all that much if they aren't getting shot outside of overwatch
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Post by danny1995 on Mar 29, 2018 10:27:31 GMT -5
The only thing I feel bad for wyches for is them being basically discount harlequins. Like the obsessions are let them advance and charge, or let them be s4, or let them be 3 attacks each. So like, discount harlequins...
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Post by Frosty the Pirate on Mar 29, 2018 10:29:29 GMT -5
Oh yeah, I'm not trying to say the changes are bad or anything. It's a big improvement. I just don't see them as more than a mop-up unit due to durability. Even getting punched back by a basic marine will hurt a good portion of the time.
81 attacks is great, but just like daemonettes, you'll never get 20 wyches in combat. 10 jumping out of a raider is probably the best you'll reliably do, and 41 attacks at 3s, wounding on 4s most of the time with no AP is only ~3-4 dead MEQ bodies. An ideal mop-up unit for sure, but NOT a spearhead like that article makes it sound like you could do.
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Post by kaelon on Mar 29, 2018 10:30:34 GMT -5
I didn't want to say it first but I was thinking the same thing. Wyches are harlequin that you find at Walmart.
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