Dark Eldar pre-order next week!

[raceygaming]

I wish they had just given the wyches a 5++ all the time to make them more viable on the table top. However that being said they look pretty good now. and multiple uses, either fast moving pressure units, or at s4 they can even hope to kill units. I'm still a little surprised they didn't get a poisoned weapon strat for 1-2 CP that makes all the attacks on a unit Poison 4+ in case you get stuck fighting a T5 army.
This making me think that AoS models will find their way into the game pretty easy now.

[raceygaming]

I guess you can say wyches are discount harlies but I would rather get 20 models for 160 pts then like 5, dark eldar seem to benefit from models on the table...they are a great combat screen, have big mobility, and are a good choice to be put into a web way with a unit of 20.

In perspective if you take +1S then you are paying 2pts more per model for a -1T Ork with a 6++/4++. that seems pretty good

[thesanityassassin]

Plus you've still got combat drugs as a factor. Assuming they stay the same you can easily get to S5 base with the one Obsession, or +2" movement and run&charge. Or T4 which is not at all a bad deal.

They're not world-enders by any means, but for 8 points a model in an army that can back them up with a lot of cheap, fast, shooty as hell units, they seem pretty valuable.

[Jack Shrapnel]

did you expect wyches to be as good as harlies given the point difference?

come one guys... you're not being serious right?

that's not what makes a unit bad, finding a more expensive unit that can do their job better

that's like saying ork boys are bad because marines have a better save and a better gun.... different point values and different roles and synergies within an army.

[raceygaming]

I'm just happy that wych models will actually have a place on the table that doesn't feel like you are giving away points. There are some great wych models both in GW and from 3rd party groups that could make a very nice looking army.

[kaelon]

I'm not the biggest fan of wyches, but with that being said I would actually field them now. Yes harlies are better(personal preference). Being able to bring 20 wyches for the price of 5 harlies along side my kabal, man is just to good to be true. 160 points for a possible 81 attacks with no ap, no big deal. I just feel bad for the Golden custards when they have to take that on

[trantos01]

And the stratagems teaser dropped.

There's a nasty once-per-battle anti-psyker option, the standard Eldar 'you can't hit me' stunt along with some other tricks.

[Frosty the Pirate]

Agents of Vect... Oh my... Even at 3CP, stopping an enemy stratagem on 2+ could just be deadly. If your plan revolved around a particular strat. #BLOCKED. That's just dirty. I love it.

[thesanityassassin]

Yep. Especially if you're the kind of army that stacks strats. Like I'll commonly put Veterans of the Long War on some Plasma Chosen and then use Endless Cacophony to let them shoot twice. Shut off that second round of shooting and I've not only gotten less use out of the first burned CP, but likely hung an expensive unit out to dry!

[Frosty the Pirate]

I was watching a battle report this morning: www.youtube.com/watch?v=ChhwdS08HbY

The words "It's a good time to be a Dark Eldar player. We are now equals of the craftworlders" were said.

Elf High Fives anyone?

According to the list section, MASSIVE points reductions pretty much across the board.

[Frosty the Pirate]

SS82's review is up, I'll likely give it a listen Sat morning and post anything noteworthy in here.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5f1OcHw_Qw

[thesanityassassin]

Damn but I'm really tempted to expand the Footdar mentality in a darker direction. Yeah, the vehicles are really good, but 6 point Warriors who can come in squads of 5 with a heavy weapon, and 8 point Wyches, plus the reduced cost on Bikes, Hellions and Scourges? Not to mention the Coven stuff that I'm honestly unfamiliar with...

Like start out with 3 Battalions and you're looking at 12 squads of 5 Warriors with a lance each and 6 squads of 10 Wyches you've got 120 models with a ton of heavy shooting and a lot of remarkably versatile close combat for just under 1100 points.

Biggest issue I'm seeing is the number of HQ's you're gonna have to slam in there, but Archons are cheap enough and have the re-roll 1's aura that it's not TERRIBLE to have to stick 4 of them floating around the shooty dudes, but minimum of just under 380 of gearless HQ units is frustrating. Honestly, the biggest issue I'm seeing with the book in general is how much it gets messed up by different detachments - you're not really *able* to take a Brigade at all.

[redshirt2375]

I will likely try to put together a warrior horde since I have enough models 😉 and I have tried it pretty much every edition to see how it works.

I think with the extra CP for taking multiple patrols, A brigade was not really how GW was expecting people to run them.

I haven't had much time to search/sift through all the rumors/leaks but I think this codex is going to make for multiple viable list types unlike the previous couple ones have

I also hope to pick up the codex this weekend if there are any left at Nexus by the then

[raceygaming]

I was at nexus last night and they were unpacking all the DE codex and stuff. Now I cant say how many are set aside by pre order.
Id expect there to be a few tho.

[Jack Shrapnel]

Reece over at frontline commented on the whole "but dark eldar can take a million patrols" vs. 3 detachment limits at 2k.

He said there isn't any exception to the detachment limit for Dark Eldar, nor was there supposed to be. He said that's there for large games or narrative/open play more than matched, as three patrol dark eldar isn't worth it next to the CP you can gain from multiple battalion or other detachments. Fluffy extra vs. tournament option basically.