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Post by Jack Shrapnel on Oct 8, 2022 20:43:34 GMT -5
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Post by mrmanstory on Oct 8, 2022 20:48:09 GMT -5
I really like the new commissar not sure if he's enough to make me start a guard army but it's definitely tempting!
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Post by Frosty the Pirate on Oct 9, 2022 8:29:03 GMT -5
I expect a big return for guard. The infantry meta will take a big hit from guard artillery coming roaring back.
For anyone familiar with historical gaming, one of those new towed/wheeled artillery pieces looks a lot like a NebelWerfer. (Rough translation: "Mortar Thrower") guessing from that I would guess these wheeled artillery pieces will likely try to fill the gap in the guard lineup right now that exists because Autocannons and other mid-strength weapons face so much adversity from the meta against their Ap1 and D2 profile. (The gap currently plugged by auto wounding lasgun fire)
I expect a Necrons or Tau level ground-up overhaul from the codex.
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Post by trantos01 on Oct 9, 2022 11:54:18 GMT -5
Fun thing is I ran across an image that has a Sentinel (pretty sure it's from an older reveal) hauling around what appears to be the same mortar thrower as the artillery piece.
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Post by newguy on Oct 9, 2022 12:14:20 GMT -5
Guard having heads that are properly proportioned to their bodies is heresy.
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Post by kaelon on Oct 9, 2022 20:56:35 GMT -5
Here me out on this one, the guard get tau weapons with Imperial names and they get an army wide 4++ because cadia broke before the guard did
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Post by VaUkos on Oct 9, 2022 23:27:50 GMT -5
Here me out on this one, the guard get tau weapons with Imperial names and they get an army wide 4++ because cadia broke before the guard did I dunno about that first part, feels kinda bad already that tau's kinda getting replaced already by a better version *cough* *cough* LoV don't need an 2nd faction to salt the wounds more, but I can kinda get behind the other idea just for the flair and chuckle worthyness of it.
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Post by brujonation on Oct 10, 2022 8:09:40 GMT -5
The new guard stuff so far looks pretty awesome. if this is only about 50% then perhaps there is a catachan revamp on the horizon too.
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Post by silverwhasp on Oct 10, 2022 18:29:55 GMT -5
My ONLY hope is that they don't decide to REBASE old models like the Heavy weapons teams. (Looks like HWT is smaller bases) The heavy ordonance is nice, will make fielding more infantry heavy weapons easier with the max 3 rule. Hopefully Comissars will be good this Codex, so many comissars.... Nice proportions on the infantry, and women added as well with the sprue. I like the dark skin models, will have to try and paint that. Don't really need another command squad but i'll take the upgrades. Will most likely be picking up 3 new sentinels, probably scouts. Pretty happy with the box. Now i'll have the new Cadians, the old cadians, old 2nd edition models, catachans, Kasrkin, Mordians, Valhallans and Steel Legion! Hopefully mix and match!
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Post by trantos01 on Oct 12, 2022 20:55:43 GMT -5
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Post by silverwhasp on Oct 13, 2022 11:31:58 GMT -5
From the looks of it, the Codex seems like an extensive rework. No more Yarrick, No more Creed or Kell. They will go to Legends. Seems like you will be able to fit more troops than the maximum per detachment. Rogal Dorn Tank seems like a nice option. I am quite excited!!!!
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Post by trantos01 on Oct 13, 2022 19:18:52 GMT -5
A T9 vehicle will be interesting because I know a good chunk of the anti-tank weaponry are either S8 or 9. Meaning that this vehicle will need a lot more lascannons/meltas/plasma etc aimed at it in order to be brought down.
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Post by Frosty the Pirate on Oct 13, 2022 19:40:50 GMT -5
I gotta cast doubt on the T9 vehicle rumor. This "happens every time" and people get all excited. Happened with Knights, Aeldari, Death Guard even iirc...
I'm shocked we don't have any datasheet leaks... like at all. For the amount of detail in this leak, that's rather suspicious.
It does rather all fit well through, but I can see a few traits/relics/orders/etc that seem like auto-takes. In particular the Warlord Trait that lets a warlord give themselves an order seems rather absurd, feels like something that would be being removed outright given how CORE restrictions and similar have been applied.
I'm not willing to bite down on the worm yet, but who knows, we've had spoilers like this plenty of times before, and fakes just as many. The timing is also very suspicious, given we _just_ got confirmation the codex is SOON™
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Post by Jack Shrapnel on Oct 13, 2022 20:03:07 GMT -5
If knights aren't t9 I highly doubt guard tanks would be
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Post by ohgodsnakes on Oct 13, 2022 21:52:04 GMT -5
I haven't watched the leak video, but are they suggesting that something like a Leman Russ will be T9? Maybe a new super heavy-ish vehicle could be, but it would be a HUGE stretch to call the Russ T9. The Chaos Landraider has been uparmoured to that.
Leman Russ's in the lore are notoriously good at catching shells and blowing up with everyone inside haha. T9 would definitely not be supported by the background.
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