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Post by dapperswain on Jun 21, 2023 8:57:21 GMT -5
The new app is out also in case anyone else has been itching to try it The army builder in the app says "limited time only". I'm not paying for this - I'll go back to my spreadsheets.
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Post by Hi I'm Derek on Jun 21, 2023 9:04:45 GMT -5
The new app is out also in case anyone else has been itching to try it The army builder in the app says "limited time only". I'm not paying for this - I'll go back to my spreadsheets. Honestly if Sigmar unit purchasing is here to stay... I'm not sure we even need a dedicated app anymore lol. Plus since the information is free there will be third party options (just like there was in AoS, the premier army builder for that game Warscroll Builder was built and maintained by a fan even after GW hosted it!) In the meantime it took me a few minutes to build a spreadsheet that could compute all my 10e lists so I'm not really even feeling the draw to test this out. I guess I'll just listen if people say it's good and wait to see if they keep it free forever.
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Post by raceygaming on Jun 21, 2023 9:17:01 GMT -5
So I haven't looked at the orks index yet. Is there a way to make a pure Gretchen army in 10th. Plus I'm ok with the brass Scorpion data sheet seems pretty neat hopefully it didn't get one shotted of the table first turn I don't think you quiet get a full army but you could be pretty close like 95% grots at 2000 pts. 6x 22 grots 540 (120 grots and 12 runt herders) 80 pt zogrot character massive buff to 1 grot unit. 3x6 killa Kanz - 900 pts 3x3 mek guns - 405 pts Gives you 1925 of all grot manned units + 1 ork hq cause you have to have a character. Until we see what FW gives orks that's about as good as you can get. I don't know how good it would be but it does get one of the best units in the game, until a errata clarifies mistake vs intent on grots units in combat re T5 vs T2. IF Grots units stay T5 (thanks to runt herder) in combat you might have a list going.
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Post by ItsBird on Jun 21, 2023 10:12:22 GMT -5
It would be nice if they gave us points for the legends datasheets. I'm not expecting it to be a good choice but all I've wanted to do for months is clown car as many chaos legonaries as I can into a spartan.
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Post by trantos01 on Jun 22, 2023 17:17:24 GMT -5
Huh, they finally realized that the Heavy Construct is not a 600+ point model (down to 470) and.....Dammit!
They Legended our Pylons.
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Post by voodoo on Jun 22, 2023 19:08:59 GMT -5
Awesome, a warhound is only 1100 points now, so looks like I can bring one with my Death Guard...
EDIT: So, we have point values for FW units... but no stats for them yet. Hopefully tomorrow?
EDIT2: hahaha, Grey Knights still get a thunderhawk AND some specialty Land Raider, also excited the Cyclops Demolition Vehicle still exists, that little scamp is great. I'm wondering why the Chaos Atrapos and Acheron are 20 points more than imperials, but the Castigator is 5 points less...
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Post by raceygaming on Jun 22, 2023 22:25:18 GMT -5
Awesome, a warhound is only 1100 points now, so looks like I can bring one with my Death Guard... EDIT: So, we have point values for FW units... but no stats for them yet. Hopefully tomorrow? EDIT2: hahaha, Grey Knights still get a thunderhawk AND some specialty Land Raider, also excited the Cyclops Demolition Vehicle still exists, that little scamp is great. I'm wondering why the Chaos Atrapos and Acheron are 20 points more than imperials, but the Castigator is 5 points less... I mean logic dictates that they must have slightly different abilities in chaos vs imperial or there is a precieved power difference. However given the rocky editing and slap dash points on some things it might be a typo or just a random choice the team made.
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Post by cmcd on Jun 23, 2023 7:18:10 GMT -5
Sweet. They brought down the price of a Tau'nar to 685. Totally doable. But they got rid of the Hazard suits. I was painting up my Decepticons and using the Hazardsuits as Starscream, Thundercracker, and Skywarp. I guess they are just standard suits now. hm.. Oh do I have plans.
No necron pylon. Well happy i brought that out last year and painted it up.
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Post by voodoo on Jun 23, 2023 7:38:47 GMT -5
It's still available as a legends model, which is the mantra I keep telling myself; that I can bring it out on a Saturday pick up game anytime... just not to Champs or another tournament unless "legends are allowed".
Still isn't the best of feelings, I know, but them moving to legends really shouldn't impact too many games, as I'm guessing that most people would let you bring it still.
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Post by cmcd on Jun 23, 2023 7:49:58 GMT -5
Yeah that is an option for sure. I could just save it for Apoc Games.
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Post by Hi I'm Derek on Jun 23, 2023 8:10:16 GMT -5
I tuned out for a bit- so is it locked in, legends doesn't get points?
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Post by voodoo on Jun 23, 2023 8:24:23 GMT -5
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Post by voodoo on Jun 23, 2023 8:26:10 GMT -5
I tuned out for a bit- so is it locked in, legends doesn't get points? I don't think so, they said they'd be getting points, but that they wouldn't update them with balance patches, etc. etc. The points they drop within the next few days are going to be the long and the short of it apparently.
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Post by Hi I'm Derek on Jun 23, 2023 8:36:28 GMT -5
Okay so no change then, I guess people are just disappointed so many plastic horus heresy vehicles aren't valid for comp.
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Post by question on Jun 23, 2023 8:44:22 GMT -5
I understand the disappointment. Lots of people over the years have picked up those FW/knock-off pieces, particularly for tournaments. I have a finger in the HH pie so I'm okay either way. But for others, I feel the pain. I've had some FW pieces in tournaments as well and enjoyed the extra "flavour", but at least the option for casual play is still there.
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