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Post by Jack Shrapnel on Jun 15, 2023 8:35:42 GMT -5
Aberrants seem...good?
What madness is this?
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Post by cmcd on Jun 15, 2023 11:15:28 GMT -5
In GW fashion
Genestealer Cult is all messed up. It’s like they shuffled the deck before scanning it in.
Don’t know where anything is…. I guess that’s fitting. They are ambushing
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Post by Jack Shrapnel on Jun 15, 2023 11:31:36 GMT -5
In GW fashion Genestealer Cult is all messed up. It’s like they shuffled the deck before scanning it in. Don’t know where anything is…. I guess that’s fitting. They are ambushing Yeah it's not really in any coherent order... cards popping up unexpectedly where you did not anticipate they would be... just as planned
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Post by raceygaming on Jun 15, 2023 11:31:52 GMT -5
In GW fashion Genestealer Cult is all messed up. It’s like they shuffled the deck before scanning it in. Don’t know where anything is…. I guess that’s fitting. They are ambushing I weirdly think that its roll AND alphabetic order, so HQ A-Z, then troops A-Z etc. At least that is what I realized they did with orks
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Post by Hi I'm Derek on Jun 15, 2023 11:40:25 GMT -5
Digital rules are great but this distribution method really showcases that GW is years behind in this area. What 40k needs (and has needed for quite a while at this point) is something like what corvus belli does for infinity- a rules 'wiki' rather than just a pdf of a physical book, and then browser software that lets you search profiles on the fly.
Wahapedia really showcases what is possible, it's still kinda embarrassing it's looking like it's going to continue to be a necessary game aid going forward.
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Post by ohgodsnakes on Jun 15, 2023 11:45:22 GMT -5
I have some hope for the new app coming in. Maybe it won't be bad?
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Post by Hi I'm Derek on Jun 15, 2023 12:56:30 GMT -5
I have some hope for the new app coming in. Maybe it won't be bad? We can always hope! Although I would honestly prefer something more universal that works in a browser. Never been a fan of constructing lists on my phone.
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Post by Jack Shrapnel on Jun 15, 2023 13:13:28 GMT -5
something where you could just look up datasheets on the fly would be nice during game.
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Post by Typhus on Jun 15, 2023 14:53:45 GMT -5
Abandon hope.
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Post by raceygaming on Jun 15, 2023 15:13:03 GMT -5
Abandon hope. That's a tough profile to deal with...I guess they only get 1 per unit since it's a Cannon.
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Post by Frosty the Pirate on Jun 15, 2023 21:03:35 GMT -5
Abandon hope. -blink blink- *pinches self* Hello Nightspinner, haven't seen you since 7th Ed =)
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Post by voodoo on Jun 15, 2023 22:07:21 GMT -5
I mean... without miracle dice, it's not that great, even if you are within its rapid fire range.
Avg of 12 shots 6 hits if firing indirect (BS 4+) depending on what it's targeting, maybe even 8 Wounding on 3's for most infantry, but then youre going to re-roll all of them to hunt for 6's 4-6 wounds, maybe 2 as 6's if you're rolling hot no AP, and your target benefits from cover if you're firing indirectly, so... anyone but marines are on 3+ saves now?
It's great if you roll 6's and/or casino the hell out of it and get a boxcar 18 shots from it and wound like you're playing Yahtzee.
Interestingly... I'm wondering how stack interactions work. Are Scarab Occult Terminators immune to Devastating wounds from this gun? Devastating that aren't Anti-"X" (like this) only score critical hits on natural 6's; but Scarab Occult terminators special rule is if they're being shot by a weapon with a higher Strength than their toughness, subtract 1 from the wound roll. So your natural 6 becomes a natural 5, still wounding, but not scoring a critical hit.
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Post by question on Jun 15, 2023 22:39:04 GMT -5
Probably just the hour but that string of calculations made my head hurt.
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Post by Hi I'm Derek on Jun 15, 2023 22:55:29 GMT -5
Call me old fashioned but in my day the 'unmodified' part of an 'unmodified six' indicated that the six was not modified.
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Post by Jack Shrapnel on Jun 16, 2023 6:14:25 GMT -5
yep, unmodified is unmodified, so no getting around critical hit / wound/lethal/devastating
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