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Post by harryfang on Nov 13, 2012 9:52:14 GMT -5
would the hormagaunts get cover off of the trygon?
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Post by Frosty the Pirate on Nov 13, 2012 9:55:20 GMT -5
they wouldn't... the trygon would get cover from the gaunts.
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Post by Hizack on Nov 13, 2012 10:08:52 GMT -5
More correctly, the Trygon NEEDs the cover from the gaunts and not vice versa.
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Post by Jack Shrapnel on Nov 13, 2012 10:22:40 GMT -5
even more correctly... the trygon cannot get cover from the gaunts... they do not block 25% of the model... not even close... Trygons are very, very tall...
you'd need warriors or any of the mid-sized bugs to even have a chance at it... perhaps gargoyles because they are kind of splayed out big and raised up...
hormagaunts behind a trygon can certainly claim cover
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Post by danydaigle24 on Nov 13, 2012 11:22:51 GMT -5
lol gaunts giving cover to a Trygon comon guys...
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Post by Frosty the Pirate on Nov 13, 2012 11:53:15 GMT -5
Right... Forgot that a Trygon is 6" tall. Not 4" (As guants are 1", and thus 25% of a 4" tall MC like a Tervigon)
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Post by harryfang on Nov 13, 2012 13:05:28 GMT -5
then can gaunts behind a trygon claim that they are not in LOS from things like fire warriors?
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Post by danydaigle24 on Nov 13, 2012 13:11:56 GMT -5
LOS is determined by what you can see. so if the fire warrior cant see you at all (wich I really doubt) then yes.
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Post by harryfang on Nov 13, 2012 13:14:41 GMT -5
if they cant see some, then they cave to consentrate fire, right?
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Post by danydaigle24 on Nov 13, 2012 13:28:57 GMT -5
if he choose to focus fire only the one without cover can die. if he choose not then you have cover (the one behind your trygon) but will still die if you fail your 5 up cover
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Post by Jack Shrapnel on Nov 13, 2012 13:43:50 GMT -5
The trygon is a very skinny model... it won't block line of sight, especially to a horde unit behind it... they'll get a cover save, but that's it... even if one model firing can't see a particular hormagaunt, they'll see the other 20 so it won't matter... if one hormagaunt is completely utterly blocked from every one of the fire warriors, then it is correct that one hormagaunt cannot be shot
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Post by harryfang on Nov 13, 2012 16:14:04 GMT -5
sorry about what my idiotic friend posted above.... leaving your account on line is not a good idea
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Post by harryf on Nov 22, 2012 10:08:36 GMT -5
new list and tactics. HQ: hive tyrant- moves up behind trygon, shoots, casts stuff whip/bonesword TL devourer hive commander biomancy
Elite 2*2 HG - move up around tervigon, shoot light mech (dreadnoughts, rhino) 8 Ymgarls - do what they do
troops 20 devilgaunts outflanking (shoot squishier targets like Heavy weapons team, fire warrior, command squad) tervigon-cast FNP, spawn stuff, tie up stuff in combat, smash tanks if nessesary catalyst 25 hormagaunts with toxin/adrenal(CHARGE!!!!) 3 warriors with deathspitter(hold objective, hide and shoot, move around tervigon) heavy 2 trygons - CHARGE!!!! prioritize tanks tyrannofex - move forward, lob cluster spines, rupture cannon mech, spray dissector larvae vs infantry
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Post by Jack Shrapnel on Nov 22, 2012 11:30:05 GMT -5
looks pretty good... I'd try and fit in a tyrant guard for your tyrant... or at least armored shell for the 2+ save.... drop little guys to make points...
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Post by danydaigle24 on Nov 22, 2012 12:19:48 GMT -5
yeah its a cool list and you use stuff that people normally dont use so thats always nice...
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