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Post by fritzthedwarf on Nov 22, 2012 12:49:24 GMT -5
I like it too. I agree with Shannon - try to get a tyrant guard in there or armoured shell. The tyrant needs some extra protection for his cost.
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Post by harryf on Nov 22, 2012 16:50:29 GMT -5
How exactly does the rules for the tyrant guards work? for them to protect the tyrant, are the shots resolved against them? or can i take a armor save on the tyrant, and if I fail, I allocate it to the guards instead?
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Post by Jack Shrapnel on Nov 22, 2012 17:52:53 GMT -5
you take it on the closest model... you can look out sir to the guard... BEFORE you take armor saves...
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Post by harryf on Nov 28, 2012 10:51:31 GMT -5
looking at the list...... I cant exactly find where to drop points. the only thing I think is possible is not to run ymgarls altogether and take 2 tyrant guards... because dropping hormas below 20 or ymgarls below 8 is just killing their effectiveness too much another idea is to bring only one trygon, and use the points to get 2 tyrant guards and prime upgrade thoughts on where I can drop points?
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Post by Frosty the Pirate on Nov 28, 2012 12:01:30 GMT -5
Looking at your list, it's going to be very hard to shoehorn in 2 tyrant guard.
I would recommend simply buying the armoured shell for your tyrant.
To get the points, I would suggest you drop 1 ymgarl and 2 or 3 hormaguants. this leaves the rest of the list 95% intact, and doesn't reduce the effectiveness of either unit by very much (a good or bad roll is likely to change the outcome of a round of combat more than those couple models).
This also lets you keep double trygon while protecting your tyrant from shooting for the most part.
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Post by harryf on Nov 28, 2012 12:49:28 GMT -5
to make sure the ymgarls are still good, i'm going to just drop 4 hormies
waht kind of stuff would the shell protect him from? not lasguns, but definately autocannons
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Post by Jack Shrapnel on Nov 28, 2012 12:55:33 GMT -5
specific point costs edited out....
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Post by Frosty the Pirate on Nov 28, 2012 13:13:23 GMT -5
specific point costs edited out.... Wow, I actually guessed the values of the shell and ymgarl right on? 4 Hormies isn't a bad choice. the 2+ save will protect the tyrant from mid strength torrent shooting. AKA anything thats str 6-8 with a ton of shots (Shuriken Cannons, Autocannons, Missiles etc)
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Post by Jack Shrapnel on Nov 28, 2012 13:17:47 GMT -5
you can't post specific point costs for anything. I didn't bother checking if you posted the correct cost.
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Post by harryf on Nov 29, 2012 9:53:08 GMT -5
is that a copyright thing?
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Post by Frosty the Pirate on Nov 29, 2012 10:08:09 GMT -5
Yeah, you can post total points costs like my Tyrant with Wings, 2x Devourers, Hive Commander, Toxin Sacs, Adrenal Glands and Biomancy costs 250 points. But you can't say my Tyrant costs X, and the wings costs X and the devourers cost X... etc.
You are also allowed to refer to them by comparatives, like "Warriors base cost is the same as a Land Speeder", since anyone reading it would have to know the cost of the compared unit to know the actual value.
You also can't post complete statlines, but you can refer to pieces of them. Like saying "I took the collar of khorne so my bloodthirster is S9 on the charge"
On a related note, if I got any of this wrong, the mod who has to edit and fix this is allowed to smack me upside the head IRL once.
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Post by Jack Shrapnel on Nov 29, 2012 10:22:00 GMT -5
....only once.... hardly worth it then... I'll let Tom do the edits
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Post by thesanityassassin on Nov 29, 2012 20:07:05 GMT -5
I'll edit it just for the smacking =P
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Post by calitom on Nov 30, 2012 4:33:26 GMT -5
I'll smack without editing?
Also Tyrant guard are worth more then 2+ armor save on the tyrant, though if you're going all in for it you may as well use the Swarmlord. Costs nearly the same and does so much more (Plus solo's armies with iron arm once he gets there.)
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Post by Frosty the Pirate on Nov 30, 2012 9:13:43 GMT -5
Haha! I have escaped without smacking! *evil laugh*
(EDIT - INTERNET SMACK!!!!! - mod)
Problem with swarmy is he's pure CC, this list has so little shooting that without the tyrant he'll really feel it
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