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Post by LizardTau on Oct 27, 2015 5:33:26 GMT -5
Oh a side note. Anyone else thinking hiw redundant the name fusion colidder is?
Fusion is when two particles collide and fuse together. So it's a particle collider collider? Lol
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Tau
Oct 27, 2015 12:04:31 GMT -5
Post by voodoo on Oct 27, 2015 12:04:31 GMT -5
Tau arsenal confirmed!
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Tau
Oct 28, 2015 9:40:54 GMT -5
Post by cmcd on Oct 28, 2015 9:40:54 GMT -5
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Tau
Oct 28, 2015 15:31:59 GMT -5
Post by LizardTau on Oct 28, 2015 15:31:59 GMT -5
on the gw web site. it shows the campaign is two book. narative for the campaign and then the rules. really not sure what i should get.
I don't want to get both if i don't have to.
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Tau
Oct 28, 2015 15:53:39 GMT -5
Post by Jack Shrapnel on Oct 28, 2015 15:53:39 GMT -5
If you have the existing Tau book I'd probably get the campaign book... more bang for the buck as you get all the new rules/formations AND all the campaign stuff too! course if you don't like carrying around two books with your army the codex makes alot of sense too... can see why you'd be torn
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Post by LizardTau on Oct 28, 2015 16:14:03 GMT -5
Oh if I have the money I'd have both. And a supremacy suit on top of that. You know for ard boys.
I'll get the campaign book I think and the decide if I need the the codex
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Post by cmcd on Oct 29, 2015 18:59:54 GMT -5
Sweet well the stealth formation just got good. It also help deal with Knights Ion shields since you stand to the front and shoot them in the butt for no save. If they move the shield to the rear then the rest of your army melts them. The Best part about this after re-reading the rules is that You can chose at the start of your Shooting phase (same time the shield is chosen) whether or not to use the wall of mirrors. "Ion Shield: When an Imperial Knight (IK) is deployed, and subsequently at the start of each of the opposing side's Shooting phases before any attacks are carried out , the controlling player must declare which facing each IK's ion shield is covering..." (IK Codex, 2015, p. 117) "The Wall of Mirrors: At the start of your shooting phase, this Formation CAN network their stealth fields to create a Wall of Mirrors. If you do so, then the weapons used by the Formation's Ghostkeels, and by any unit of stealth Battle suits from this formation that are within 6" of a Ghostkeel from this Formation, have the Ignores cover special rule, and these models add 1 to their BS for that shooting phase. In addition their weapons are assumed to strike the rear armour of any vehicle that they hit, no matter what its actual facing." (Tau Empire Codex, 2015) "Sequencing: While playing Warhammer 40,000, you'll occasionally find that two or more rules are to be resolved at the same time - normally 'at the start of the Movement phase' or similar. When this happens, and the wording is not explicit as to which rule is resolved first, then the player whose turn it is chooses the order..." (The Rules, 2014, p.17) This means. The Imperial Knight player needs to decide first what side he is going to put the shield. If he decides to put it on his rear side, then the Tau player can decide Not to use Wall of Mirrors. If he puts it on the side facing the tau. Then they can decide to use Wall of Mirrors and strike is ... Rear armour. That is super powerful.
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Post by LizardTau on Oct 31, 2015 17:26:59 GMT -5
So people who got it. Codex or campaign book? Or both?
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Tau
Oct 31, 2015 18:43:51 GMT -5
Post by cmcd on Oct 31, 2015 18:43:51 GMT -5
have not picked up my copy yet. Been busy with Halloween. Ill be heading down to Nexus tomorrow when I can shake off what ever i find tonight. (That sounds worse than it is.)(Ill be drinking later) Happy Halloween!!!
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Tau
Oct 31, 2015 22:18:12 GMT -5
Post by raceygaming on Oct 31, 2015 22:18:12 GMT -5
I picked up both.
If you have to save money the Campaign has all the new models and all the formation rules in it needed to play everything. It only has some of the weapons and support systems and none of the signature systems. It does have all the goodies for the marines if you have a split collection and you want both. With the campaign and old rule book you are set on most stuff.
The Codex itself while looking literally the exact same of the outside covers does have all the good stuff you want. Some decent fluff and painting tips stuff. It has a more clear break down of all the new drones and all the gear you can access. Most entries are 90% the same from the 6th to 7th codex. So if you don't mind carrying 2 books the old codex and campaign book would cover off almost everything you need.
the Codex DOES NOT have any of the rules for the tidewall, they are all found in the campaign book.
Also there are SOME minor changes from the leaked rules to the book that I have found. Tho some might be more translation problems than changes since I think some of the leaked stuff was translated to English.
Overall I would stay that Tau have improved from 6th to 7th codex, if only because Tau didn't lose anything except an awesome fire support base formation and have gained a fair bit of situationally solid toys. Also with the new formations and the Tau Base unit size I would expect that Tau will quickly rise to the top of MSU play. Good news in all round except for kill point missions.
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Tau
Oct 31, 2015 23:20:14 GMT -5
Post by Jack Shrapnel on Oct 31, 2015 23:20:14 GMT -5
the new "tau decurion" is pretty rough...
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Tau
Nov 1, 2015 2:34:17 GMT -5
Post by cmcd on Nov 1, 2015 2:34:17 GMT -5
Also there are SOME minor changes from the leaked rules to the book that I have found. Tho some might be more translation problems than changes since I think some of the leaked stuff was translated to English. For example?
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Tau
Nov 1, 2015 2:43:57 GMT -5
Post by cmcd on Nov 1, 2015 2:43:57 GMT -5
Also there are SOME minor changes from the leaked rules to the book that I have found. Tho some might be more translation problems than changes since I think some of the leaked stuff was translated to English. For example? I sent that when I was drunk. Sorry. What book has the minor changes. If I were to get the campaign book would that be sufficient to fill in the gaps. Are the minor changes in both books?
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Tau
Nov 1, 2015 8:52:08 GMT -5
Post by raceygaming on Nov 1, 2015 8:52:08 GMT -5
The main minor change that I saw from the leak to the book is the Retaliation Cadre. The leaked copy I read had the Low altitude deployment rule that the formation MUST start in reserve. The book states "If all the units start in reserve" This means you can get your relentless broadsides and the riptide on the table turn one and the crisis can deep strike later.
Also this might have been an oversight by me in reading the leaks but the breacher team can only go to 10 models not 12.
Also this might again be an oversight more than a change but the Coldstar battle suit does loose its IC rule and gain the Character rule instead so no hiding him in a unit to fly out later to grab stuff.
The difference between the Hunter Contingent and Hunter Cadre is also something I didn't really show up well in leaks I found. The contingent is decurion style that is made up or 1 hunter cadre and other fomations.
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Post by LizardTau on Nov 1, 2015 9:16:36 GMT -5
It's funny I saw tonnes of people up in arms saying gw lied and you can't use the old dex and the campaign book and then one person posted a page that says all the changes in the campaign book lol
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